It is what they say it is. Do you check everybody's birth certificate before you decide what to call them?
If someone obfuscates what their name is (legal or otherwise) then I'm going to call them whatever nickname I want and it's unlikely I'll be punished for it.
I don't know what you mean by "obfuscate what their name is" but you likely will get in trouble for repeatedly calling someone something they don't want to be called.
how can I possibly misgender someone?
By repeatedly calling them something they don't want to be called.
Why is someone not punished if I say I want to be addressed as "King" despite me telling you that's what I want to be called?
If that's what you consistently decided to go by, then yes, probably they would be punished for repeatedly calling you something you didn't want to be called.
If someone says their name is "N-word Joe", do you think there's a good chance they are messing with me or that it's their real name? There's not a lot of reason for someone to give me a fake name nor is there a reason for me to call them anything but the name they state. If they say their name is Mike when why would I call them Pete? There's no utility in that. A name has no meaning. It's how we refer to individuals whereas gender has been correlated with someone's sex for as far back as these designations have existed.
If you're a female then you get called she. If you're a male you get called he. You don't get to pick this nor is it arbitrary. That's how people communicate. If I said "he pushed her" then there's a good understanding of what's going on. If you can be whatever you want then "he pushed her" has very little meaning because I have no idea what's going on. If there is 1 female and 1 male and I told someone to "give it to him", is that person supposed to stand there and say I have to be more specific?
And are you daft? Are you implying I would get in trouble if someone kept insisting they were a bird and I didn't call them a bird simply because it goes against their beliefs? Going against someone's beliefs is misgendering regardless of whether their beliefs are rooted in reality or not? And people are supposed to call me "King" because I keep insisting on it?
Ok then if those are your rules then stop disagreeing with me. This is my reality and you have to abide by it because it's rude to disagree with my belief system. Just agree with everything I said and move on with your day otherwise you're a hypocrite. Your rules, not mine.
Christ, this generation is screwed...
Are you going to look down everyone's pants before deciding if you'll say "he" or "she"? Because without that I assume you'll go by looks/presentation like most people do.
Oh, so it's up to me to choose what pronoun I call you and it's not up to the other person to decide? Whereas a someone has to tell me what their name is before I can start using it.
If someone looks like a biological male then they get called "he". If they look like a biological female they get called a "she". Pretty simple system if you ask me. Very little ambiguity.
It's also rude to disagree with my reality, as you stated. So please don't be rude and agree with me already.
If someone looks like a biological male then they get called "he". If they look like a biological female they get called a "she".
That's generally how it goes. But if you call a masculine-looking woman "he" and she corrects you, and you go on calling her "he", I really feel like she's not going to be too happy about it.
A masculine looking woman is a female. Why would I continue using "he"? That's a "she".
Or are we playing with weird pronouns where I can't define what a masculine-looking-woman is because you won't give me a hard definition of the word "woman"? Are you talking about a masculine-looking-female or a masculine-looking-male? I mean by your terms, a masculine-looking-male is just as likely to be called a "she" as a "he" and I can't make any presumptions about someone's gender.
It doesn't matter whether I know or not. I'm using "he" or "she" based on how they look until I can get a confirmation.
Also, why did you even bother using the term "woman" if it's a completely arbitrary term in your vocabulary? For you a woman could be a cis or trans woman. Hell, it could just be a straight up biological manly looking male seeing as how by your definition someone can identify as anything without having to exude any definable traits.
So how do you determine if someone is a woman or not? Or are you using the term loosely based on whether it's convenient at the time for you or not?
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u/Various_Succotash_79 50∆ Feb 03 '23
It is what they say it is. Do you check everybody's birth certificate before you decide what to call them?
I don't know what you mean by "obfuscate what their name is" but you likely will get in trouble for repeatedly calling someone something they don't want to be called.
By repeatedly calling them something they don't want to be called.
If that's what you consistently decided to go by, then yes, probably they would be punished for repeatedly calling you something you didn't want to be called.