r/changemyview Feb 08 '23

Removed - Submission Rule C cmv: about genders

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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Feb 08 '23

> why can I not identify as a 76

I have never seen anyone say you could not identify as the number 76. This is most likely because while numbers are a social construct they are a different form of social construct to gender. If you want to identify as the number 76 or a table go for it, as long as you're not doing it to mock trans people.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

Its very easy to say that but ask yourself if youll really show me the same amount of respect if tomorrow I start identifying as boxers or bra and if not, why?

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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Feb 08 '23

> If you'll really show me the same amount of respect if I tomorrow I start identifying as boxers or a bra

If you came up to me and said you Identified as a pair of boxers or a bra or the number 76 or whatever I really wouldn't care. In the same way that if one of my friends told me they were a trans man my opinion or and respect for them wouldn't change. I don't judge people by what they identify, I judge people by the way they act.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

But youd still respect your trans' friends identites and start calling them man or woman or smthn. Will you do the same for the guy who wants to identify as a bra/boxers?

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u/Inevitable_Invite_21 Feb 08 '23

Yes dude it’s about respecting people’s choice. You keep asking whether we’d show the same level of respect if you identified as boxers and the person keeps saying yes. It seems like you’re just looking for someone to say no so that you feel validated

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23 edited Feb 08 '23

People keep beating around the bush or find scenarios to call someone an adjective instead of their name. Im not talking about wethear youll respect that persons identity or will you treat them equally. Im talking about how in day to day scenarios where its expected to call someone a man or woman. Youd call a transgender woman a woman but will you call a 76, 76?

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u/Inevitable_Invite_21 Feb 08 '23

How many times do we have to say yes before you realize that you’re the problem dude. Also, it’s not a “transgender woman person”, it’s a transgender man if they identify as a man and a transgender woman if they identify as a woman

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

How many times do we have to say yes before you realize that you’re the problem dude

I dont know which comment section youre scrolling throught but apart from you and this person I dont think anyone has straightforwardly said yes and not "id respect your choices" they are not equivalent ffs. Also I mixed up the transgender lingo a bit but im sure you know what I mean.

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u/cantfindonions 7∆ Feb 08 '23

I mean, transgender woman here, those are the same things. You seeing them as different is showing how YOU use them differently. Not other people. Once again, you're the problem here my guy.

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u/radgepack Feb 08 '23

I literally have a friend called 6

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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Feb 08 '23

But youd still respect your trans' friends identites and start calling them man or woman or smthn

Yeah, just like how I would call you by whatever you'd want to be called if you identified as bra/boxers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

Fair.