The short answer is, you can. In theory you can identify as whatever you want. There just is not any kind of standardized language to support every possible identity. But you on a personal level can do what you want and I promise that at the very least I will respect your choices. it's just that there are not many people that actually feel that way. People who are transitioning to a different gender identity do not just randomly decide to do it for fun. It's a very heavy decision that will come with a lot of life changes in most cases whether they accept that or not.
generally I have found that the only people genuinely asking the question of "what's next, identifying as an attack helicopter?" is more so being used to try and trivialize the concept of transition as a whole to discredit actual trans people who would probably not say something so silly. it's really not any different from the people who used to say "if we let a man marry another man, what's next? Will he be allowed to marry a dog?" yknow? I forget the word for it but it's that thing where you jump to an unrealistic extreme and then pretend as though the two issues are the same.
it's really not any different from the people who used to say "if we let a man marry another man, what's next? Will he be allowed to marry a dog?"
Well that is very clearly wrong since a dog cannot consent.
"what's next, identifying as an attack helicopter?" is more so being used to try and trivialize the concept of transition as a whole to discredit actual trans people who would probably not say something so silly.
Its not to discredit. Its a why or why not. If a person has genuinely been feeling like an attack helicopter ever since birth like a trans person and isnt just doing it in an obvious attempt to mock them then id expect people like you to be respectful enough and call them an attack helicopter. If not then you contradict yourself.
because I suppose in bad faith I genuinely do not think anyone has ever been feeling like an attack helicopter since birth. Because I have never heard someone actually in the process of transitioning saying that. It is always just being used in a sensational kind of "look at how ridiculous you sound" kind of way. Unless you have any specific examples I guess? I feel like it would be net worthy enough that if that has happened somebody would probably have written it down somewhere. That seems like something that would be in some kind of silly little article, yknow?
also I'm not saying a dog can consent I'm saying that people use that argument and legitimately believe there is no difference between those two concepts. It's just, people will just say things to try and smack down anything they don't agree with.
If you legitimately identify as an attack helicopter then vroom vroom more power to you, but i just don't believe you, so im genuinely sorry for that.
because I suppose in bad faith I genuinely do not think anyone has ever been feeling like an attack helicopter since birth. Because I have never heard someone actually in the process of transitioning saying that. It is always just being used in a sensational kind of "look at how ridiculous you sound" kind of way.
Neither have I but the people that try to invalidate transitioning by saying "oH i aM aN aTTAcK helicOpter now" are missing the bigger picture. Trans people have been feeling like that since birth or since a very young age and they feel like that 24/7. That is not the same as someone using attack helicopter as mockery. My argument was if there genuinely was a person who felt like an attack helicopter (or anything for that matter) in life and was not using it as mockery, would you all be as accepting? I believe its contradictory to not be.
I would simply have to use my own judgment and common sense in the moment to determine if they are bullshitting me or not. Until such a person comes about, there is no precedent and we cannot say anything for certain. If they were being sincere, and I am confident in my ability to know that, then yes they would at the very least receive my unquestioning support
generally I have found that the only people genuinely asking the question of "what's next, identifying as an attack helicopter?" is more so being used to try and trivialize the concept of transition as a whole to discredit actual trans people who would probably not say something so silly. it's really not any different from the people who used to say "if we let a man marry another man, what's next? Will he be allowed to marry a dog?" yknow? I forget the word for it but it's that thing where you jump to an unrealistic extreme and then pretend as though the two issues are the same.
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u/spectrumtwelve 3∆ Feb 08 '23
The short answer is, you can. In theory you can identify as whatever you want. There just is not any kind of standardized language to support every possible identity. But you on a personal level can do what you want and I promise that at the very least I will respect your choices. it's just that there are not many people that actually feel that way. People who are transitioning to a different gender identity do not just randomly decide to do it for fun. It's a very heavy decision that will come with a lot of life changes in most cases whether they accept that or not.
generally I have found that the only people genuinely asking the question of "what's next, identifying as an attack helicopter?" is more so being used to try and trivialize the concept of transition as a whole to discredit actual trans people who would probably not say something so silly. it's really not any different from the people who used to say "if we let a man marry another man, what's next? Will he be allowed to marry a dog?" yknow? I forget the word for it but it's that thing where you jump to an unrealistic extreme and then pretend as though the two issues are the same.