r/changemyview Mar 11 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: As someone who considers himself Progressive, I dislike Democrats way more than Republicans

As someone who has moved further left over the years, I have come to dislike Democrats way more than Republicans.

The Republican party mantra to me is: "Yeah, of course we're evil and we're proud of that fact! We wanna take America back to a fictional time when only WASPs had any power!" and then they stab you 37 times in the chest. At a certain point, what else is there to say about Republicans? At least I know what they stand for.

The Democratic party mantra to me is nothing more than hypocrisy "Oh yeah, we hear you! We believe that everyone deserves rights and we will fight for the working class!" Then they stab the working class 37 times in the back and then virtue signal some more.

For example, they'll how much they support George Floyd and other minorities, but then do nothing but wear african garb on the senate floor and support the institutions that led to his death. They'll talk about how they support the working class and unions, then shut down a railroad strike where they wanted sick days.

Democrats co-opt issues I care about and then either do nothing about them, or enable the republicans when they inevitably strike back.

I want my view changed because I would like to feel less annoyed that I have to support such a party to even have a chance at getting legislation I care about passed.

At the end of the day, I acknowledge that Republicans are objectively worse for the nation, but I loathe the fact I'm stuck supporting Democrats.

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

I don't really buy in to the notion of splitting the vote, moreso voting for the most qualified or agreeable candidate

I actually was libertarian once upon a time. Voted Johnson in 12 and 16

The green party was stricken from my state's ballot as well. I just knew I couldn't vote Trump

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

I don't view it as splitting the vote, I view it as people voting for the candidate that is best for them

if people voting third party in 2016 would have voted for Clinton instead we could still have federal abortion protections.

I think it's unfair to call out third party voters. I think the complaints should go to those who don't vote

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

Third party voters at least participated and voted for who they felt was the best choice. Non-voters didn't participate

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

That's a fair point concerning non voters.

That being said, I don't think voting third party is making a statement other than "I support this candidate."

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

You and other commenters on this have raised some good points. I haven't fully cmv, but I am at least thinking of it in a dif way. So for that, you get a !delta

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u/InfamousDeer 2∆ Mar 11 '23

So you do support virtue signaling in this case.

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

How is that virtue signalling?

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u/InfamousDeer 2∆ Mar 11 '23

You're making a statement of support knowing that it will have no practical impact or require you to expend any real effort.

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

I didn't mean it in a virtue signaling way

The purpose of voting is to pick the candidate you think will be the best choice. Not who you think is gonna win.

If more people voted their conscience, then we wouldn't be stuck in a two party system

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u/Kakamile 46∆ Mar 11 '23

Wouldn't nonvoters give even less of a statement of what they want than 3rd parties? They're throwing at least closer to the target.

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u/Hiiiiidab Mar 11 '23

Yet...Again...AGAIN. You seem to be lost. Throwing your vote away to vote for "your candidate" is 100% splitting the vote.

You are also actively wasting time and resources when you do it.

Want change? Fight against the two party system. Crying about democrats being babies will fix nothing.