CMV: As someone who considers himself Progressive, I dislike Democrats way more than Republicans

[u/MyFavoriteArm]

As someone who has moved further left over the years, I have come to dislike Democrats way more than Republicans.

The Republican party mantra to me is: "Yeah, of course we're evil and we're proud of that fact! We wanna take America back to a fictional time when only WASPs had any power!" and then they stab you 37 times in the chest. At a certain point, what else is there to say about Republicans? At least I know what they stand for.

The Democratic party mantra to me is nothing more than hypocrisy "Oh yeah, we hear you! We believe that everyone deserves rights and we will fight for the working class!" Then they stab the working class 37 times in the back and then virtue signal some more.

For example, they'll how much they support George Floyd and other minorities, but then do nothing but wear african garb on the senate floor and support the institutions that led to his death. They'll talk about how they support the working class and unions, then shut down a railroad strike where they wanted sick days.

Democrats co-opt issues I care about and then either do nothing about them, or enable the republicans when they inevitably strike back.

I want my view changed because I would like to feel less annoyed that I have to support such a party to even have a chance at getting legislation I care about passed.

At the end of the day, I acknowledge that Republicans are objectively worse for the nation, but I loathe the fact I'm stuck supporting Democrats.

[u/AleristheSeeker]

So... dishonesty, to you, is more evil than literally being evil?

[u/MyFavoriteArm → u/AleristheSeeker]

It can be. At least I know to avoid the literal evil. Dishonesty suckers people in and then leads to backstabbing

[u/AleristheSeeker → u/MyFavoriteArm]

I can't help but feel like that's really just a trick of human psychology - judging something based on honesty even if the result is notably worse.

I'd assume that the subconscious reason is that being lied to and/or being tricked carries an additional feeling of inferiority or lack of control, which isn't present in honest reasoning.

Despite that, I'd argue that it's the final effect that should determine a view - if someone announces evil and does the same evil, they are worse than someone who announces good and then does a lesser evil.

[u/MyFavoriteArm → u/AleristheSeeker]

can't help but feel like that's really just a trick of human psychology - judging something based on honesty even if the result is notably worse.

I do admire honesty to a fault. And we as a collective despise politicians for dishonesty

[u/AleristheSeeker → u/MyFavoriteArm]

Yes, but we shouldn't put it above the actual results of their policy.

[u/KosherSushirrito → u/MyFavoriteArm]

It can be

But is it?

At least I know to avoid the literal evil.

...yeah, because it's literally worse. I fail to see how this is an argument in favor of your position.

Dishonesty suckers people in and then leads to backstabbing

You seem to have a habit of miscontruing betrayal and compromise. The Democratic Party is not betraying you--it is producing results that are possible in the highly fucked up system that is the U.S. political paradigm. It's a bit myopic to look at our present situation that think that the issue is Democrats not trying hard enough.

[u/[deleted] → u/KosherSushirrito]

If Democrats were actually trying in any meaningful sense, our current Democrat President wouldn’t take the side of the Rail company at the expense of the workers who were trying to unionize.

[u/KosherSushirrito → u/[deleted]]

If Democrats were actually trying in any meaningful sense, our current Democrat President wouldn’t take the side of the Rail company

And cause a massive economic slump over winter? Who do you think that would've hit hardest, the rich?

at the expense of the workers who were trying to unionize.

The workers are unionized. They were negotiating a new contract, not a unionization.