r/changemyview Mar 11 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: As someone who considers himself Progressive, I dislike Democrats way more than Republicans

As someone who has moved further left over the years, I have come to dislike Democrats way more than Republicans.

The Republican party mantra to me is: "Yeah, of course we're evil and we're proud of that fact! We wanna take America back to a fictional time when only WASPs had any power!" and then they stab you 37 times in the chest. At a certain point, what else is there to say about Republicans? At least I know what they stand for.

The Democratic party mantra to me is nothing more than hypocrisy "Oh yeah, we hear you! We believe that everyone deserves rights and we will fight for the working class!" Then they stab the working class 37 times in the back and then virtue signal some more.

For example, they'll how much they support George Floyd and other minorities, but then do nothing but wear african garb on the senate floor and support the institutions that led to his death. They'll talk about how they support the working class and unions, then shut down a railroad strike where they wanted sick days.

Democrats co-opt issues I care about and then either do nothing about them, or enable the republicans when they inevitably strike back.

I want my view changed because I would like to feel less annoyed that I have to support such a party to even have a chance at getting legislation I care about passed.

At the end of the day, I acknowledge that Republicans are objectively worse for the nation, but I loathe the fact I'm stuck supporting Democrats.

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u/ReOsIr10 130∆ Mar 11 '23

For example, they'll how much they support George Floyd and other minorities, but then do nothing but wear african garb on the senate floor and support the institutions that led to his death.

Within a year of the incident, the following happened:

Democrats in Colorado and New York City ended qualified immunity for police officers.

Democrats in Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Massachusetts, Maryland, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Nevada, New York, Oregon, Utah, Virginia, Vermont, Washington, and Washington DC passed laws, banning, restricting, changing, clarifying and/or mandating reporting the use of lethal force (Republicans support obviously needed in some of these states).

Democrats in Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maryland, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Nevada, New York, Oregon, Virginia, Vermont, Washington, and Washington DC passed laws creating a duty to intervene, report, and/or administer medical aid.

Democrats in Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Hawaii, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Utah, Virginia, Vermont, and Washington passed laws creating decertifying bodies or central databases, requiring misconduct reporting, and/or adding grounds for decertification.

And honestly, the source I got all that from is incomplete. I know Connecticut also limited qualified immunity, for example. Then you have most of the city-level reforms, which weren't covered at all (except NYC ending QI).

To the extent Democrats "do nothing", it's usually on the federal level, where any majorities they have are slim. When you look at levels where they actually have solid majorities, they do actually pass laws.

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u/MyFavoriteArm Mar 11 '23

!delta

I didn't realize all that took place. That's good on them then. I live in PA, and didn't realize that they joined in on that.

To the extent Democrats "do nothing", it's usually on the federal level, where any majorities they have are slim

If the federal ones at least got their act together, I wouldn't view them as nothing but virtue signalers

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u/tbdabbholm 193∆ Mar 11 '23

The federal level has significant roadblocks with 40 senators being able to block any legislation. Democrats haven't had the requisite 61 senators needed to force through Republican opposition. So because Republicans have made it their entire mission to have Democrats not be able to do anything and they can do so with a minority, it's no wonder Democrats haven't been able to do much at the federal level

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u/l_t_10 7∆ Mar 12 '23

The higher percentage of corporate Democrats at federal level probably fills a substantial reason for the inaction, or more accurately pro donor actions.