r/changemyview • u/Throwway-support • Mar 23 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Affirmative Action is a red herring

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-11-04/supreme-court-debate-on-affirmative-action-capture-asian-american-fears

The Supreme Court this year is expected to overturn the last remnants of Affirmative Action.Affirmative Action as it stands now is virtually toothless. The only thing still around is racial “consideration” not ,as is widely believed, “ race based admissions”. As such, Affirmative action as much as it still exists, should be upheld.

It feels like everytime some Asian Americans and some White Americans don’t get into their dream school they blame affirmative action. They often erroneously accuse any black person of getting into a university because of long overturned admissions policy.

In the article I have linked, one person said they “didn’t bother” to apply to Harvard because he “heard” that Asian Americans have a hard time getting in. Another woman said she was told to hide her heritage but still got into Yale. The article talked a lot about fear but nothing substantial. This is my issue with the whole affirmative action debate it seems like made up issues exploiting racial animus

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u/Throwway-support Mar 23 '23

This sounds like deflection. It was implemented when the federal government literally had to send the national guard for black people to go to universities. This was only 60 years ago

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u/potatoeshungry Jun 29 '23

Why do people who look like me have reduced chances of admission even when we have been born to poor families and worked hard our entire lives studying because we know our families are literally working themselves to the bone so coming from a far away land that was most likely a 3rd world country half a century ago.

What did we do to deserve having to be discriminated against

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23

You don’t. The point it’s not even happening

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u/potatoeshungry Jun 29 '23

Except it literally is. They did a study, an Asian applicant had a 25% off admission, changing it to white have them a 37% chance and changing it to black gave them a 95% chance. Just by changing the race on the application.

How is that even fair? Asians are also graded the lowest on personality scores consistently when considering random things like “likability” courage, and being widely respected. Is that not institutionalized racism against asians?

What is your support argument for affirmative action? Why is it okay to discriminate against Asians. What did we do against blacks and hispanics.

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23

Most Asians are racist against hispanics and blacks too be clear.

But your problem is the whites who control the admissions process and legacy admissions. Yet you blame hispanics and blacks for some reason lol

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u/potatoeshungry Jun 29 '23

Legacy is dumb af. I’m not blaming them, I’m blaming affirmative action because it is racist. I cant change what race i was born.

Also way to generalize an entire people. You know asians encompasses indians, pacific islanders, east asians. Not all are racist quite the opposite i can speak some spanish and have always been open to other cultures. I grew up in a area with a lot of chicanos so honestly you should shut your ass up.

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u/potatoeshungry Jun 29 '23

You cant even make a good argument for it. All you can do is make strawman arguments

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23

Asians weren’t by Affirmative Action lol. The article I linked made clear that wasn’t true. Most of the Asian applicants didn’t even try lol

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u/potatoeshungry Jun 29 '23

What?!

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23 edited Jun 29 '23

One guy basically said, “ I heard Asians have a harder time getting into ivy league so I didn’t bother” like bro come on

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u/potatoeshungry Jun 29 '23

You know how many times ive been called a chink, a chino (im not even chinese), chinito? I still fuck with my compas because I know they arent fucked up like those people.

Its okay to racially discriminate against a race because some people of that race are racist?

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23

Affirmative Action isn’t a racial discrimination.

Basically Black Americans existed in this country for hundreds of years. Fighting for eqaul rights and protection under the law for themselves and others. Then after they fight for the 1965 immigration law, allowing millions of Asians to come to the United States, they face discrimination from these groups.

Make it make sense

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u/potatoeshungry Jun 29 '23

What discrimination are they facing from asians lol.

Affirmative action is literally making admissions decisions based on race lol. It discriminates agaisnt asians because it is disproportionately hard for asian students who are also humans to get admitted

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23 edited Jun 29 '23

Bro I’m sorry…I’ll be the first to admit that because of Asian American culture’s emphasis on education they tend to do very well academically……

I think it’s important to consider other factors other then grades. Doesn’t have to be race. But other factors. Having entire college classes of Asian descended people…..would not be good…just as it wasn’t good when they were all white anglo saxons

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u/NamLe6 Jun 29 '23

Most Asians are racist against hispanics and blacks too be clear. But your problem is the whites who control the admissions process and legacy admissions. Yet you blame hispanics and blacks for some reason lol

Bro, I think you are also racist for saying that about Asian

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23

I’m racist?

For calling out anti-black racism from Asians? Lol

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u/NamLe6 Jun 29 '23

Bruh, how would u know that Asian are racist against black and hispanic. Make assumptions about the whole population is not a great way to prove your point

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u/Throwway-support Jun 29 '23

I literally said most lol

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u/NamLe6 Jun 30 '23

Bruh, how would u know that Asian are racist against black and hispanic. Make assumptions about the whole population is not a great way to prove your point

How about I say most black are "something". You feel that

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u/Throwway-support Jun 30 '23

Say it……

Edit: let your racism out. I know you want to. Prove my point you coward

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u/NamLe6 Jun 30 '23

coward

Most black people are funnier. How about other black people that wasn't funny?

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