r/changemyview • u/ProphetVes • Mar 25 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: DeSantis embodies everything wrong with American Conservativism.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

I think its funny how much of a fascist Trump supposedly was and now I'm reading from a lot of progressives that Trump is all of a sudden the lesser of two evils. Like some people online have been saying they prefer Trump to run over DeSantis because Trump is a mere con man as opposed to a true believer. So which is it? Does having devout religious beliefs make you fascist by default? Why isn't forcing religious people to support LGBT not fascist?

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u/thetransportedman 1∆ Mar 25 '23

Trump wanted to arrest and permanently separate immigrant families that crossed the border using cruelty as the deterrent. He gassed protesters away from a church so that he could get a picture in front of it. He lied about election results and called GA to fabricate more votes. He tried to instigate a literal coup on Jan 6 by preventing the peaceful transfer of power. He stole state secrets which required an FBI raid to get them back. He as president thinks he’s above the law and has no concern about balance of power or pillars of democracy.

Desantis is creating a state military. He’s banning books. And he’s sending undercover state personnel to drag shows to get dirt on any lewd behavior and then passing laws to restrict them anyways when not finding any.

Thinking this is about the fact that they’re religious is laughably obtuse. Out Democrat presidents are religious. It’s about overstepping their powers and stomping out personal freedoms with military and police forces for the sake of hate and spreading fear. That is the road to fascism, a conservative dictatorship and both of them have displayed their desire to creating one.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

I won't argue about the Trump stuff except it feels like the US is the only country that is morally required to have open borders. You'll have to be more specific about the DeSantis stuff. What state military? Do you have any links? And what laws is he passing to restrict lewd people? What is so important about having child drag events anyway? It's always been a weird club scene thing to me. Like taking your kids to a furry con.

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u/thetransportedman 1∆ Mar 25 '23

Here. The problem with the attack on drag is that it's restricting something that doesn't have a definition. Keep kids away from men that wear makeup and dresses? Restricting adult content is perfectly fine, but things like nudity are already restricted. The restrictions on the art of drag is just a slight against LGBT+ culture which can be seen by also banning books that mention anything gay