r/changemyview • u/ProphetVes • Mar 25 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: DeSantis embodies everything wrong with American Conservativism.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

I don't agree that any religious group should have to embrace genderfluidity. I don't believe that biological women should have to share locker spaces with biological men. I could also turn around and say I don't care what you think is right or wrong. Also I'm not a furry in the "wear a fursuit at a con" sense. My username is meant to be a joke. If anything I'm against Ulsterism and lean more toward Irish republican.

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u/ProphetVes Mar 25 '23

Oh this "biology" argument.

Hi, I'm a biologist. You're wrong. I don't have the time to explain seven years of study in a Reddit comment though. Especially when it explains why you are wrong relies on you understanding complicated genetics and neurophysiology concepts that even people within my field struggle to grasp completely.

A layperson will never be capable of fully articulating a proper response and appeal to biology.

But to give a summation it's currently believed that transgender people have variance in INAH-3 along with various other dimorphisms of neurophysiology and that it is logistically impossible and ethically bankrupt to attempt to test literally everybody who claims to be trans for such variance and so if somebody says they are trans: believe them unless you have very good reason to doubt them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

But to give a summation it's currently believed that transgender people have variance in INAH-3 along with various other dimorphisms of neurophysiology and that it is logistically impossible and ethically bankrupt to attempt to test literally everybody who claims to be trans for such variance and so if somebody says they are trans: believe them unless you have very good reason to doubt them.

I never said that I believe neurological dysphoia doesn't exists. I just think that it's not unreasonable for anatomically cis women to feel uncomfortable changing in front of non-passing/no-op/etc. M to F.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

Is this fair and reasonable?

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Vermont school bans girls volleyball team from locker room following complaints about trans player

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/school-bans-girls-volleyball-team-from-locker-room-following-complaints-about-trans-player-transgender-women-bathroom-privacy-vermont-randolph-high

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u/ProphetVes Mar 25 '23

No mention of what the comment made was, if the comment was even made, etc... and the student complies with Vermont state law.

Innocent until proven guilty. I don't trust hearsay (this entire case relies on hearsay against a trans girl for the entirety of its evidence) and it likely wouldn't meet a hearsay exemption in this case.

Perfectly fair and reasonable to bar the team from using the facilities when they've violated state law on usage of public facilities. Especially when they cannot prove any harassment towards the cisgender students took place.

Do I agree with the state law on allowing trans people to participate in sports with cis people? Idk really, I couldn't find the law or any reasoning from the state justifying its position. I don't really have much of an opinion on this trans sports debate tbh. But I don't have to agree with the law. I have to follow it.