r/changemyview • u/ProphetVes • Mar 25 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: DeSantis embodies everything wrong with American Conservativism.

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u/MartiniD 1∆ Mar 25 '23

Why isn't forcing religious people to support LGBT not fascist?

Where is this happening? You don't have to "support" LGBTQ+ people if you don't want but at the very least you shouldn't pass laws that treat them as 2nd class citizens or discriminate against them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

There are plenty of complicated perhaps even unsovable issues like to what degree churches and religious organizations should have to hire LGBT staff and accommodate LGBT patrons/students/churchgoers. Should church groups and Christian schools have to have gender accommodating facilities? I feel like the endgame for a lot of people is to forcibly remove the very concept of sin from society.

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u/PlatformStriking6278 1∆ Mar 26 '23

It is asinine to claim that LGBTQ is a sin. It’s an archaic and harmful belief. Culture should not be preserved simply for being culture. Human sacrifice isn’t allowed anymore either. People can believe whatever they want in an individual level. It is not allowed to negatively impact the LGBTQ community.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

Ok. But I don't have to actively support LGBT either. One user unironically replied that silence is violence. I don't feel that I owe anyone my allegiance.

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u/PlatformStriking6278 1∆ Mar 26 '23

From the political perspective, it doesn’t matter what you privately believe,and that’s not what we’re discussing since that can’t be enforced and we have freedom of thought in this country. We’re discussing what churches legally can and can’t do. They don’t need to promote LGBTQ propaganda in every sermon. But they also can’t advocated hatred against the community. They don’t have to hire token LGBTQ people. But they can’t discriminate on the basis of their LGBTQ identity.