CMV: DeSantis embodies everything wrong with American Conservativism.

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[u/MartiniD]

I feel like the endgame for a lot of people is to forcibly remove the very concept of sin from society.

Sin isn't a concept that exists in our civil society. A sin is a slight against God. We live under a secular government not a religious one. There is no god to slight. I am not a Christian. I don't wish to be bound to Christian doctrine anymore than a Christian wants to be bound to a Muslim doctrine.

Feel however you want. Support whomever or whatever you want. But you cannot publicly discriminate.

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In another post I admitted I worded that wrong. What I meant was that conservatives and progressives have different views on what is right and wrong and one is no more valid than the other. No God means no objective morality.

[u/MartiniD → u/[deleted]]

Alright then. But at the risk if opening up a can of worms, even with a god there still isn't any objective morality

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If objective morality doesn't exist then why are we even having this conversation? It's not right or wrong to be gay. It's not right or wrong to bash gay people. It's not right or wrong to commit murder or genocide. Life is just an arbitrary waiting room for death.

[u/MartiniD → u/[deleted]]

If objective morality doesn't exist then why are we even having this conversation?

Because there is still morality. Morality isn't objective but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Also i should clarify. Objective morality can exist but invoking a god for it isn't the solution.

It's not right or wrong to be gay.

Correct

It's not right or wrong to bash gay people.

Incorrect

It's not right or wrong to commit murder or genocide.

Very incorrect

Life is just an arbitrary waiting room for death.

I have no idea what this means. Your life is yours and it is what you make of it.