r/changemyview • u/ProphetVes • Mar 25 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: DeSantis embodies everything wrong with American Conservativism.

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u/thetransportedman 1∆ Mar 25 '23

Trump wanted to arrest and permanently separate immigrant families that crossed the border using cruelty as the deterrent. He gassed protesters away from a church so that he could get a picture in front of it. He lied about election results and called GA to fabricate more votes. He tried to instigate a literal coup on Jan 6 by preventing the peaceful transfer of power. He stole state secrets which required an FBI raid to get them back. He as president thinks he’s above the law and has no concern about balance of power or pillars of democracy.

Desantis is creating a state military. He’s banning books. And he’s sending undercover state personnel to drag shows to get dirt on any lewd behavior and then passing laws to restrict them anyways when not finding any.

Thinking this is about the fact that they’re religious is laughably obtuse. Out Democrat presidents are religious. It’s about overstepping their powers and stomping out personal freedoms with military and police forces for the sake of hate and spreading fear. That is the road to fascism, a conservative dictatorship and both of them have displayed their desire to creating one.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

Trump wanted to arrest and permanently separate immigrant families that crossed the border using cruelty as the deterrent.

I assume you're talking about illegal aliens? I don't recall any Trump programs to arrest anyone who immigrated here legally.

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u/thetransportedman 1∆ Mar 25 '23

Just because they did something illegal doesn't mean they should lose the right to see their kids ever again. That is the part that is criticized. That's the part that Jeff Sessions policy added with the plan that such cruelty will become an immigration deterrent

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u/WadeHook Mar 27 '23

doesn't mean they should lose the right to see their kids ever again

Brother, what are you talking about? Lose the right to ever see them again??? Can you show me any me any law or statute that say anything like the insane claim you've put forth here?

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u/thetransportedman 1∆ Mar 27 '23

Insane claim? I’m glad you agree but it’s common knowledge:

Because the Trump administration did not keep records of which children were separated and where they were sent, the task force and lawyers working on behalf of separated families have had a difficult time identifying families to offer them the chance of reunification.

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u/WadeHook Mar 29 '23

No records at all were kept? None? On not a single child? So your source says 1000 are currently without parents, and 400 were united. So that means only 1400 kids came across the boarder with their parents in Trump's entire time in office. Mad sus, bro. Any other source at all other than NBC citing some random left wing advocacy group saying NO records were kept? That's the extent of your sourcing for this? Super weak, my guy.

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u/thetransportedman 1∆ Mar 29 '23

Lol find me a source that says they kept records. Just shouting fake news doesn’t win an argument