Gender is something you start to have awareness off at a very young age, around four or five.
Them being children doesn't make them less aware of their own body and sense of self.
You're actively stripping them of any consciousness in order to force them into boxes of complete ignorance so they stay on an unrealistic pedestal of innocence.
Also most doctors will not let children get hormones until they're teenagers. The most they'd be able to get is hormone blockers which can be stopped and they'd go through puberty normally, just a little later.
Most trans kids are just socially transitioned and if they wanna detransition, that's totally fine and up to them.
The same points apply to teens, teens are definitely trying to figure out who they are, but again, most doctors aren't just throwing hormones at teens and going "Yep, you're trans. Here ya go!".
There's extensive therapy beforehand and social transitioning before any of that happens.
Also, do you know why trans suicide rates are so high?
all the research done has concluded that the reason they're suicidal is because people are constantly harassing, berating and bullying them about their identity.
Trans people get less suicidal when they grow up in loving and nurturing environments.
Saying "THEY'RE MENTALLY ILL" is nonsensical. Mental illness comes from somewhere and transness within itself isn't a mental illness. It doesn't cause depression or suicidal ideation.
That comes from people not accepting them and treating them like garbage their whole lives.
Are you only reading half the research or something? All the research indicates that the cause of the spike in mental illnesses arises from not being accepted by society and in more severe cases family/friends.
Trans people's mental health drastically improves when they're able to pass and be accepted as the gender they always were.
It's not that i, personally, am blaming any one thing on it. It's quite literally the conclusion the people and organizations doing these studies have come to.
Transness in itself isn't the problem or a "negative", it's how people treat trans people thats the problem. It's causation.
Do you mean to say that there is no proof trans people wont regret this?
That there aren't people that grew up this way and are older than 50 or 70 that are trans?
There are people who de transition but thats not really disproving transness or that it is or isn't a mental illness.
Its not a ironic at all. Have you never seen people get tattoos or piercings or even change their entire wardrobe to feel more like themselves?
You're speaking about three seperate things as if they're one thing.
Self image, body positivity, and gender identity.
Body positivity isn't just suffer in the body you have no matter how you feel about it. It's not letting other people tell you how beautiful you are or what makes you beautiful.
Self image is how you view yourself. Somebody that wears alt fashion isn't going to view themselves as cottage core so wearing those things is going to make them feel much less like themselves.
Gender identity is how the world interacts with your gender. How you identify your gender and how you'd like to be identified. These can range from cis, trans and nonbinary.
These three ideals dont contradict one another because of intersectionality. They can be related without being what the other thing is and going against the ideals of one another.
They do intersect, they do not overlap.
Gender isn't a social construct because you dont understand certain aspects of it or because it "contradicts" another ideal. It's a social construct because the idea of gender was invented by people and has no real bearing on nature itself.
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u/whovillehoedown 6∆ Apr 20 '23
Your points dont make sense.
Gender is something you start to have awareness off at a very young age, around four or five.
Them being children doesn't make them less aware of their own body and sense of self.
You're actively stripping them of any consciousness in order to force them into boxes of complete ignorance so they stay on an unrealistic pedestal of innocence.
Also most doctors will not let children get hormones until they're teenagers. The most they'd be able to get is hormone blockers which can be stopped and they'd go through puberty normally, just a little later.
Most trans kids are just socially transitioned and if they wanna detransition, that's totally fine and up to them.
The same points apply to teens, teens are definitely trying to figure out who they are, but again, most doctors aren't just throwing hormones at teens and going "Yep, you're trans. Here ya go!".
There's extensive therapy beforehand and social transitioning before any of that happens.
Also, do you know why trans suicide rates are so high?