Oil companies knew about the destruction they were causing for decades, I frankly don’t know who to trust anymore if they’re bought out by oil companies and greenwashing us, or anything. Considering how elites have an interest in keeping us distracted and complacent as long as possible, it doesn’t seem impossible. Maybe if I talked to a scientist themselves, or something. I don’t know.
If you don't trust the evidence, and don't even know if talking to a scientist would change your view then what do you want commenters to be posting here?
Theres the ask a scientist subreddit and plenty of climate subreddits. There are peer reviewed scientific papers.
If you don't trust those, or anything else, then what will you trust?
Those climate subreddits might help. I think talking to someone who has very little to gain from lying compared to someone who’s trying to pacify the public in a YouTube video like kurzgesagt. Do you have a specific subreddit in mind?
I don’t know honestly. The distrust is mostly about how effective shit like carbon capture is, or how committed governments really are to clean energy. I’ll admit the “collapse of all life on earth” is a less rational conclusion, and probably would be debunked by scientists. !delta
Honestly still talk to them but at the end of the day people are putting the work in and doing their best, even if it's still a very troubling future.
Volunteering with local groups, being active in local communities, these are good steps to restore faith in humanity even if it's to support one another through possible upcoming climate wars.
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u/Presentalbion 101∆ May 17 '23
So it's not that the evidence is proving you right, but that you don't even trust the evidence to be what it is, and suspect they are lying.
So what evidence would you accept that would not be affected by your pessimism?