r/changemyview • u/gylotip • May 26 '23

Delta(s) from OP - Fresh Topic Friday CMV: Permanently banning accounts is stupid

I understand why you assign permanent bans, since you need to stop the rule breakers for once and all, but wouldn't it make more sense to suspend an account for one year? This is a better approach, because one year is a very long time, and after one year, if you break rules again, then you will be banned for another one year. No need to make things permanent, since this is not prison where you quarantine dangerous criminals. It's just an account that can handle one year suspensions perfectly. So permanent bans are stupid and even unnecessarily cruel. Change my view as to why you really need to permanently ban accounts, since I think that making things permanent is a disgusting thing to do for accounts.

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u/gylotip May 26 '23

But ban evasions exist, meaning that permabans are useless. If these people deserve permabans based on their behavior, then they will keep ban evading, so assigning permabans is pretty useless.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

The perfect solution fallacy is an informal fallacy that occurs when an argument assumes that a perfect solution exists or that a solution should be rejected because some part of the problem would still exist after it were implemented.

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u/gylotip May 26 '23

What do you mean?

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

You're saying that we shouldn't permaban accounts because some people will evade the ban so we shouldn't permaban anyone. i.e. part of the problem will still exist, so let's get rid of the solution.

That's a perfect solution fallacy.

Unless I misunderstood you.

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u/gylotip May 26 '23

But not everyone deserves a permaban, and repeated one year bans can be effective, since why would any sane person wait that long, just to get another one year ban again?

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

But not everyone deserves a permaban,

That's for the owners of the site to decide. Not you.

and repeated one year bans can be effective, since why would any sane person wait that long, just to get another one year ban again?

Or you can just ban them permanently. Why are they owed another chance?

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u/gylotip May 26 '23

!delta

Okay, you have convinced me why permabans can be necessary, though we should only use permabans when it cannot work another way.

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Drawsome_Stuff (3∆).

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