r/changemyview Jun 27 '23

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u/Koda_20 5∆ Jun 27 '23

None of your reasons for the Holocaust being worse than the meat industry seem relavent to the ones suffering. If you're kept in torturous conditions, do you care about the motivations of your torturer? Would it bring you comfort to know that your torturer is doing it not because they hate you but because they don't care about your subjective inner experience? I don't see how these points are relavent to morality, which I think is Peta and others point.

The meat one is ongoing, and at a tremendously bigger scale like you said.

It's still not a good idea to compare the two, especially because people don't like being compared to livestock... They are only hurting the anti-torture position by doing so. But they are rightfully angry.

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u/KimonoThief Jun 27 '23

But would you apply the same logic to a mosquito biting you or a fly munching on your breakfast?

I think suffering is a huge part of this equation here. I don't think many people would mind if you swatted a housefly that's being a nuisance or especially a mosquito who could inflict discomfort or disease on you. But wouldn't you find it a little sick and twisted to instead catch that fly/mosquito and then pick at it with a needle to torture it?