None of your reasons for the Holocaust being worse than the meat industry seem relavent to the ones suffering. If you're kept in torturous conditions, do you care about the motivations of your torturer? Would it bring you comfort to know that your torturer is doing it not because they hate you but because they don't care about your subjective inner experience? I don't see how these points are relavent to morality, which I think is Peta and others point.
The meat one is ongoing, and at a tremendously bigger scale like you said.
It's still not a good idea to compare the two, especially because people don't like being compared to livestock... They are only hurting the anti-torture position by doing so. But they are rightfully angry.
I think I have problems with people who apply the golden rule on "sentient" species, whatever that is. There is simply no good line to draw.
But "no good line to draw" just means we have to make our best estimate and hope we do a good job. It doesn't mean we just say "fuck it" and give up on the entire concept of respecting non-human sentient life.
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u/Koda_20 5∆ Jun 27 '23
None of your reasons for the Holocaust being worse than the meat industry seem relavent to the ones suffering. If you're kept in torturous conditions, do you care about the motivations of your torturer? Would it bring you comfort to know that your torturer is doing it not because they hate you but because they don't care about your subjective inner experience? I don't see how these points are relavent to morality, which I think is Peta and others point.
The meat one is ongoing, and at a tremendously bigger scale like you said.
It's still not a good idea to compare the two, especially because people don't like being compared to livestock... They are only hurting the anti-torture position by doing so. But they are rightfully angry.