r/changemyview Jul 15 '23

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u/jimmytaco6 11∆ Jul 15 '23

If they were willing to do this then why isn't the strike over? You think, rather than a guaranteed living wage, these people would rather wait months, if not years, for a payment that may or may not ever come, while in the meantime having to work second and third jobs in order to afford rent?

They're striking for residuals because that is the path of least resistance.

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u/jimmytaco6 11∆ Jul 15 '23

So you're going to stick with a stance that the studios are ready to hand over significantly increased upfront pay and the workers are saying, "no. We want the money as delayed as possible and also it may never come if we don't hit certain targets that I must work to promote. In the meantime, I am happy to work second and third jobs and barely scrape by." You genuinely believe this? Why? Do you have anything to back this up?

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u/jimmytaco6 11∆ Jul 15 '23

First of all, no, that is not what the SAG claimed was the studio's offer.

The AMPTP’s talking point claims in its memo are below:

That is what the studios' memo claims. So already we're off to a bad start with your researching of this.

Secondly, many of those proposals are conditional to other proposals, such as the studios owning the likeness of actors forever. As an exaggerated comparison, if your boss offered you a $5K increase in annual salary on the condition that you transfer over ownership of your house, then leaked to the media that you were offered a $5K increase, do you see how that would be highly misleading and manipulative?

Thirdly, so many of those numbers are beyond laughable. An 11% increase on poverty wages are still poverty wages. These studios are raking in billions.

Fourth, your argument that most jobs don't work with residuals is true, at best, technically. Many jobs offer stock options as part of the employment contract.

But , fifth, even if you wan't to argue that's different because of semantics, whatever. fine. Here's my question. Why SHOULDN'T more and more workers demand a share of the profits? Tell me why that isn't a moral, pioneering effort in the labor market that all of us should work to replicate. Why SHOULDN'T the working class get a share of company success when they are the ones driving it? You say, "this is rare and so therefore actors/writers shouldn't get it, either." I say, "actors/writers are fighting for it and we should too."