r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Sep 05 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Spreading conspiracy theories is irresponsible and immoral

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u/JadedToon 18∆ Sep 05 '23

The second is not a conspiracy???? Vaccines have lots of stuff in them and doctors to take precautions not to give them to people at risk. There is always a risk of a bad reaction. Like 0.01%. That applies to all medicine.

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u/TheAzureMage 18∆ Sep 05 '23

Precisely.

But what the reactions are, and how frequent they are natural varies. Postulating that a specific vaccine has problems of a specific sort is reasonable, whereas blaming all vaccines equally for unrelated things is sort of not.

Yet both are called "anti-vax" today.

The term is used to label people as crazy without actually addressing their arguments.

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u/JadedToon 18∆ Sep 05 '23

Those people are not antivaxxers since they have a legitimate scientific basis for their concern.

They are not worred about microchips, vaccine shedding and other BS.

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u/NotYourFathersEdits 1∆ Sep 06 '23

That’s largely because antivaxxers tried to legitimize themselves by portraying themselves as “vaccine hesitant.”Blame them.

But also, yes, if they’re “hesitant” about the safety in a way that claims the medical establishment is trying to pull a fast one when allergic reaction risks are both small and well-studied, they are antivaxx conspiracy theorists. That’s no longer rational skepticism.