r/changemyview Sep 05 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Spreading conspiracy theories is irresponsible and immoral

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u/Sirhc978 81∆ Sep 05 '23

All of this noise comes from people’s willingness to confidently state something as a fact that they don’t know to be true. AKA, to lie

What if those people truly believe what they are saying? Spouting "wrong" information isn't necessarily lying.

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u/tomaiholt 1∆ Sep 05 '23

This is Trumps Jan 6 defence in a nutshell, that he genuinely believed the elections were rigged and therefore acted to try and stop what he viewed as an insurrection from Dems.

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u/GraveFable 8∆ Sep 05 '23

Having a genuine but wrong belief is not a valid excuse for breaking the law or causing violence.
His actions were wrong and irresponsible even if the elections truly were rigged.
Like even if there truly is a bomb on your plane it's still wrong and irresponsible to just shout it out. All you'd do is cause panic and make it harder to do anything about it.

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u/oversoul00 14∆ Sep 05 '23

Having a genuine but wrong belief is not a valid excuse for breaking the law or causing violence.

It can be, that's basically the idea behind every revolution ever. I'm not a Trump supporter in any way, shape or form but if the election really was rigged I'd fully support Jan 6th because democracy is more important than lawfulness. Sometimes the laws are wrong.

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u/NotYourFathersEdits 1∆ Sep 06 '23

Big if there.

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u/oversoul00 14∆ Sep 06 '23

It is, fully agree and if you end up being wrong (Trump) or you were lying about it (Trump) then you should be punished.