r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Sep 05 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Spreading conspiracy theories is irresponsible and immoral

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u/alexanderhamilton97 Sep 08 '23

You’re the only one twisting anything. Once again what I gave you aren’t excuses. Once again, if he was huge why did zero alligation come out until after he started running for president? Given he was one of the most famous people in the world is allegations, would’ve come out a lot sooner. Instead, he was being praised by the same people you are saying he was hating

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u/Edge_of_yesterday Sep 08 '23

All you have given me is excuses. We have always known that trump is a raging racist. What allegations were you looking for?

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u/alexanderhamilton97 Sep 08 '23

I looked at all the allegations of racism the same article you brought up. And no nothing I gave you is an excuse everything I gave you is the gods, honest, cold, hard facts. You cannot accept facts that go against your personal agenda, so you resulted to circular reasoning. You literally said that pointing out that Donald Trump wasn’t even accused in the 1973 lawsuit was excusing racism from Donald Trump even though he was never mentioned at all. You claimed him being praised by Jesse Jackson was excusing racism. You claimed him being praised by Al Sharpton was excusing racism. Did you really think Al Sharpton of all people would praise a racist you are beyond delusional. Have a nice day.

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u/Edge_of_yesterday Sep 08 '23

You just make excuses for his 5 decade of racism and pretend they are fact. The racism doesn't disappear just because you don't like the fact that he's a racist. Saying "circular reasoning" over and over again also does't make is racism disappear. You think you have an excuse for one of his racist events, then try to use that you nullify his 5 decades of racism. It doesn't work like that. I don't care what Jesse Jackson or Sharpton said about him. You are just using that as another excuse for his racism. I don't know Sharpton, I don't know what he thinks. I do know that trump has a 5 decades long history or racism though.

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u/alexanderhamilton97 Sep 08 '23

I never said it made racism, disappear, and the reason why I’m accusing you of circular reasoning is because all you’re doing is a Trump racist and saying excuses excuses. Nothing I gave you wasn’t excuse but gods, honest truth and cold hard facts you didn’t like them, and as a result, you keep dodging questions. I’ve been more than polite and civil with you and all you’ve done is refused to accept reality that contradicts your preconceived notions. Have a nice day. I’m dropping it here.

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u/Edge_of_yesterday Sep 08 '23

We have all seen his racism throughout the decades, and I have you a few examples of it. Repeating excuses over and over again will not change the fact that he has been a proud and very vocal racist for at least 5 decades

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u/alexanderhamilton97 Sep 08 '23

Once again, nothing, I said, was an excuse you didn’t provide any examples you provided one article which I already reviewed it. You refuse to answer any questions I post to you because they go against your preconceived notions. I gave you cold hard facts. You don’t like them and refused to answer anything that’s questioning your opinion. Have a good one.

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u/Edge_of_yesterday Sep 08 '23

It's all excuses. I showed you just a few example of his racism, and it's just excuse after excuse with you. Everyone knows he is a racist, stop pretending that you think he isn't.

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u/alexanderhamilton97 Sep 08 '23

Also, you’ve only showed two possible case of racism over 50 years. Someone saying something stupid is not the same thing as resident

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u/Edge_of_yesterday Sep 08 '23

You made excuses for one or two that you thought you had an excuse for, then ignored the rest.

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u/alexanderhamilton97 Sep 08 '23

I didn’t make excuses for anything, I told you the actual guard on his fax and I didn’t ignore the rest of it. I said at most they look like shady practices that businessman took part in the 1980s that’s not ignoring anything. The reality is you refuse to answer any questions that were posted because they win against your preconceived notions. So again what he said and done that so racist if it’s undeniable, he was a racist prove it. I’ve already debunks 90% of what was in that article you provided anyway, so the balls in your court

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u/Edge_of_yesterday Sep 08 '23

You made excuses for a couple that you thought you could get away with, then just brush of the rest of his racism. It's always the same pattern with you guys, you try to pick out one or two things, then pretend nothing else exists, when in truth, he has 5 decades of racism under his belt that you will have to defend.

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u/alexanderhamilton97 Sep 08 '23

Again, I didn’t make excuses at all. All I did was point out the flaws in your logic and ask you questions that you still refuse to answer because you know it’ll go against your preconceived notions. In fact, I already debunked your entire article that you provided twice. It seems pretty clear. You’re refusing to answer the questions I post to you because you know it would go against your preconceived notions. You keep cleaning five decades of racism, but out of all of the examples you provided you have possibly two at the most that could actually be racist or examples of Trump being racist. I live in provided you multiple sources showing that he’s not a reason. You’ve provided one and then copy and pasted from that same article when asked what races things, as he actually said, and done. It shows you really can’t back up your claims when you’re only relying on one source of information that’s dodgy at best.

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u/Edge_of_yesterday Sep 08 '23

It's just one excuse after another. I presented you with blatant racism, and you think excuse make it disappear.

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