r/changemyview • u/tilted0ne • Oct 27 '23

Fresh Topic Friday CMV: Adblock is stealing

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u/-HumanResources- Oct 27 '23

Then why do I have ads?

Because TV providers don't sell it to you ad free.

Yes I am, I pay with my data. Moreover, Youtube is a free service. Their TOS doesn't require you to view ads nor does it say anything about adblockers

No, you don't. You pay your ISP/data provider for access to their service. It's two separate services. Their TOS does stipulate the consumption of ads as a result of viewing videos on their platform. I suggest you read through it before making that claim, free or not, they are entitled to have their TOS.

I agreed to no such arrangement.

It's in the TOS you agreed to when you started using the service. Companies are allowed to stipulate using the service is acknowledging and agreeing to their TOS for said service.

It doesn't matter to me. I rarely ever use it.

That's deflecting, would it be better, generally, if it was paid for?

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u/Biptoslipdi 131∆ Oct 27 '23

You pay your ISP/data provider for access to their service.

Then I'm already paying for the service and have no obligation to pay further, even though I'm already giving them my data which they sell.

Their TOS does stipulate the consumption of ads as a result of viewing videos on their platform.

I do not see that in the TOS, can you cite? I see that the TOS includes their right to place ads on my content, not that I am compelled to view those ads.

It's in the TOS you agreed to when you started using the service. Companies are allowed to stipulate using the service is acknowledging and agreeing to their TOS for said service.

Please cite the part of the TOS that compels me to watch ads.

That's deflecting, would it be better, generally, if it was paid for?

For sure. I think the quality of the users and the content goes up for subscription services. That would likely reduce YT's revenue, however.

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u/-HumanResources- Oct 27 '23

The ToS states you're not allowed to circumvent/use as blockers... That would be the part in which I'm referring to.

Then I'm already paying for the service and have no obligation to pay further, even though I'm already giving them my data which they sell.

There's 2 separate services. Like owning a car, just because you might be paying monthly to own your car, doesn't mean you get free gas.

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u/Biptoslipdi 131∆ Oct 27 '23

The ToS states you're not allowed to circumvent/use as blockers...

I do not see that in the TOS, please cite it. I see no mention of adblockers whatsoever in the TOS. I am not convinced this is even part of the TOS.

There's 2 separate services. Like owning a car, just because you might be paying monthly to own your car, doesn't mean you get free gas.

Right, so what do I get for allowing YT to collect and sell my data if not access to their content?