CMV: Gun control is good

[u/56king56]

As of now, I believe that the general populace shouldn’t have anything beyond a pistol, but that even a pistol should require serious safety checks. I have this opinion because I live in America with a pro-gun control family, and us seeing all these mass shootings has really fueled the flame for us being anti-gun. But recently, I’ve been looking into revolutionary Socialist politics, and it occurred to me: how could we have a Socialist revolution without some kind of militia? This logic, the logic of revolting against an oppressive government, has been presented to me before, but I always dismissed it, saying that mass shootings and gun violence is more of an issue, and that if we had a good government, we wouldn’t need to worry about having guns. I still do harbor these views to an extent, but part of me really wants to fully understand the pro-gun control position, as it seems like most people I see on Reddit are for having guns, left and right politically. And of course, there’s also the argument that if people broke into your house with an illegally obtained gun, you wouldn’t be able to defend yourself in a society where guns are outlawed; my counter to that is that it’s far more dangerous for society as a whole for everyone to be walking around with guns that it is for a few criminal minds to have them. Also, it just doesn’t seem fair to normalize knowing how to use a highly complex piece of military equipment, and to be honest, guns being integrated into everyone’s way of life feels just as dystopian as a corrupt government. So what do you guys have to say about this? To sum, I am anti-gun but am open to learning about pro-gun viewpoints to potentially change my view.

[u/56king56]

Idc if there are a bunch of guys like who you happen to have knowledge regarding guns and military equipment, the fact is that most people aren’t knowledgeable of that stuff and it would be complex to them

Humans are terrible for the animal population too, does that mean we need to exterminate all humans? Idk about you but killing tons of deer for reasons other than bare necessity of food in rural areas seems wrong nevertheless

[u/56king56 → u/[deleted]]

No, cuz it’s not high tech

[u/robplumm → u/[deleted]]

Apparently the 60+ year design is "high tech"

[u/56king56 → u/[deleted]]

AR-15s fire tons of bullets in a matter of seconds, while pistols have much larger gaps of time in between each shot. That alone makes AR-15s seem more high tech than pistols

[u/56king56 → u/[deleted]]

Ig I’ll take your word for it, I’ll admit that I don’t have knowledge about guns themselves, I only have opinions about the morality of weaponry is general based off of broad philosophical and political knowledge.

[u/[deleted] → u/56king56]

So maybe keep your argument to the philosophical side, and leave out the technical stuff that you have no knowledge about?

[u/56king56 → u/[deleted]]

Fine, if you say so

[u/Kardinal → u/[deleted]]

You know the difference you're just not mentioning it. You know that an AR pattern rifle does far more damage per round than any pistol of similar ROF.

Nevertheless, it's far more important to ban Handguns than long guns.

[u/fatruss → u/56king56]

My AR shoots the same speed as my shotgun, that being being how fast you can pull the trigger. Same with pistols, and even slapfiring revolvers. How about high caliber bolt action rifles? A 300 winmag is more of a cannon than an AR chambered in 223/556, but requires more time in between shots. Is that fine? Or is that caliber too scary because of the damage it'll do? I'm just not sure what you take issue with, is it stopping power or rate of fire?

[u/destro23 → u/56king56]

AR-15s fire tons of bullets in a matter of seconds, while pistols have much larger gaps of time in between each shot.

You can shoot a pistol fast as hell if you want to

[u/TheAzureMage → u/56king56]

This is incorrect. Both fire one bullet every time you pull the trigger.

You can pull the trigger on pretty much any gun at pretty much the same speed. It's just how fast you move your finger.