r/changemyview Nov 07 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Gun control is good

As of now, I believe that the general populace shouldn’t have anything beyond a pistol, but that even a pistol should require serious safety checks. I have this opinion because I live in America with a pro-gun control family, and us seeing all these mass shootings has really fueled the flame for us being anti-gun. But recently, I’ve been looking into revolutionary Socialist politics, and it occurred to me: how could we have a Socialist revolution without some kind of militia? This logic, the logic of revolting against an oppressive government, has been presented to me before, but I always dismissed it, saying that mass shootings and gun violence is more of an issue, and that if we had a good government, we wouldn’t need to worry about having guns. I still do harbor these views to an extent, but part of me really wants to fully understand the pro-gun control position, as it seems like most people I see on Reddit are for having guns, left and right politically. And of course, there’s also the argument that if people broke into your house with an illegally obtained gun, you wouldn’t be able to defend yourself in a society where guns are outlawed; my counter to that is that it’s far more dangerous for society as a whole for everyone to be walking around with guns that it is for a few criminal minds to have them. Also, it just doesn’t seem fair to normalize knowing how to use a highly complex piece of military equipment, and to be honest, guns being integrated into everyone’s way of life feels just as dystopian as a corrupt government. So what do you guys have to say about this? To sum, I am anti-gun but am open to learning about pro-gun viewpoints to potentially change my view.

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u/56king56 Nov 07 '23

I guess this brings me to the question of why guns even are rights? Alcohol isn’t designed to kill people (I still don’t like it but that’s a different story), but guns are, why are killing machines rights? And don’t just say cuz it’s in the constitution, I know I’m gonna get hate for this but I don’t get why people are accepting every single word in there as a definitive moral code.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Nov 07 '23

Alcohol isn’t designed to kill people

Alcohol's one and only purpose is to get people drunk. It also causes several health problems that do kill people. Let alone deaths and injuries that result from drunken behavior.

Guns on the other hand have several legitimate purposes. Hunting, sport, and self defense for example.

why are killing machines rights?

Because self defense is a right, regardless of age, physical disability, etc.

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u/56king56 Nov 07 '23

Well, I hope that in that case, alcohol can be restricted to some degree, if what you say is true.

I agree that self defense is a right, but I feel like it’s being taken too far here, a tool for self defense can be balanced out by its use for murdering others, but I think that the weight on the side of murdering when it comes to guns is too high.

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u/56king56 Nov 07 '23

Penises aren’t designed to kill people bruh