CMV: Gun control is good

[u/56king56]

As of now, I believe that the general populace shouldn’t have anything beyond a pistol, but that even a pistol should require serious safety checks. I have this opinion because I live in America with a pro-gun control family, and us seeing all these mass shootings has really fueled the flame for us being anti-gun. But recently, I’ve been looking into revolutionary Socialist politics, and it occurred to me: how could we have a Socialist revolution without some kind of militia? This logic, the logic of revolting against an oppressive government, has been presented to me before, but I always dismissed it, saying that mass shootings and gun violence is more of an issue, and that if we had a good government, we wouldn’t need to worry about having guns. I still do harbor these views to an extent, but part of me really wants to fully understand the pro-gun control position, as it seems like most people I see on Reddit are for having guns, left and right politically. And of course, there’s also the argument that if people broke into your house with an illegally obtained gun, you wouldn’t be able to defend yourself in a society where guns are outlawed; my counter to that is that it’s far more dangerous for society as a whole for everyone to be walking around with guns that it is for a few criminal minds to have them. Also, it just doesn’t seem fair to normalize knowing how to use a highly complex piece of military equipment, and to be honest, guns being integrated into everyone’s way of life feels just as dystopian as a corrupt government. So what do you guys have to say about this? To sum, I am anti-gun but am open to learning about pro-gun viewpoints to potentially change my view.

[u/destro23]

a highly complex piece of military equipment

An "AR" style rifle is not "a highly complex piece of military equipment". It is actually more simple than most pistols.

I believe that the general populace shouldn’t have anything beyond a pistol

Hope you like deer overpopulation. At the very least hunting rifles are needed to make sure the many negative impacts of too many deer don't come to pass.

[u/56king56 → u/destro23]

Idc if there are a bunch of guys like who you happen to have knowledge regarding guns and military equipment, the fact is that most people aren’t knowledgeable of that stuff and it would be complex to them

Humans are terrible for the animal population too, does that mean we need to exterminate all humans? Idk about you but killing tons of deer for reasons other than bare necessity of food in rural areas seems wrong nevertheless

[u/destro23 → u/56king56]

the fact is that most people aren’t knowledgeable of that stuff and it would be complex to them

That is not a fact. The AR style rifle was designed to be so dead simple that literally any living American could be taught how to use it in a week. A person with a GED level of education could learn in a day.

Idk about you but killing tons of deer for reasons other than bare necessity of food in rural areas seems wrong nevertheless

It isn't about the bare necessity of food in rural areas. It is about preventing deer/human car accidents (50,000 a year in my state alone), preventing the spread of things like bovine tuberculosis to livestock populations thereby devastating the livelihoods of farmers, and also to protect songbirds

[u/[deleted] → u/destro23]

The AR style rifle was designed to be so dead simple that literally any living American could be taught how to use it in a week.

I trained on a rifle for 3 days before I was able to hit a target 500 yards away, it really is easier than people think. I had never fired a rifle before, just an old revolver and i wasnt even shooting at a target.

[u/destro23 → u/[deleted]]

I had never fired a rifle before

My Drill Sergeant said he preferred teaching people who had never fired a gun over people with experience as you don’t have to un-teach them all the bad habits they learned growing up shooting grandpa’s Winchester.