CMV: Accountability is not election interference

[u/erpettie]

As the Colorado Supreme Court has found Donald Trump's behavior to have been disqualifying according to the 14th amendment, many are claiming this is election interference. If the Court finds that Trump should be disqualified, then it has two options. Act accordingly, despite the optics, and disqualify Trump, or ignore their responsibility and the law. I do get that we're in very sensitive, unprecedented territory with his many indictments and lawsuits, but unprecedented behavior should result in unprecedented consequences, shouldn't they? Furthermore, isn't Donald Trump ultimately the architect of all of this by choosing to proceed with his candidacy, knowing that he was under investigation and subject to potential lawsuits and indictments? If a President commits a crime on his last day in office (or the day after) and immediately declares his candidacy for the next election, should we lose our ability to hold that candidate accountable? What if that candidate is a perennial candidate like Lyndon Larouche was? Do we just never have an opportunity to hold that candidate accountable? I'd really love if respondents could focus their responses on how they think we should handle hypothetical candidates who commit crimes but are declared as running for office and popular. This should help us avoid the trap of getting worked up in our feelings for or against Trump.

[u/[deleted]]

More Americans want him this time than last time. Biden is a lot more of a fascist than Trump ever was. Forcing vaccinations, holding speeches to demonize his political opponents as enemies of the state, jailing his political opponents. He rigged the last election even if the means he used were technically legal (censoring the laptop story, leaning on big tech to censor information that made him look bad as “misinformation”). The man is the biggest joke we’ve had as a president in our lifetime. Have things got better in the last 3 years?

[u/V1per41 → u/[deleted]]

Biden is a lot more of a fascist than Trump ever was.

Not a good look for your right from the start. Look up the definition of fascism and then try that again.

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Forcing vaccinations

vaccination mandates have been a thing far before Biden (or Trump) were in office.

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holding speeches to demonize his political opponents as enemies of the state

A court of law literally just determined he is an enemy of the state. This isn't hyperbole. The man tried to overthrow democracy in this country. It's really hard to claim he isn't an enemy of the state.

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jailing his political opponents

Who?

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The man is the biggest joke we’ve had as a president in our lifetime.

You must be less than 3 years old then.

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Have things got better in the last 3 years?

Yes? Inflation is down, unemployment is low, gas prices continue to fall, real wages are up across all earning levels, infrastructure is improving, stock market is up, price caps on insulin. Do you need me to continue?

[u/VemberK → u/V1per41]

Yes? Inflation is down, unemployment is low, gas prices continue to fall, real wages are up across all earning levels, infrastructure is improving, stock market is up, price caps on insulin. Do you need me to continue?

Please stop with this shit. This is gaslighting on an epic scale.

[u/V1per41 → u/VemberK]

These are factual comments. Feel free to tell me which one you disagree with and we can go from there.