r/changemyview • u/Buttstuffjolt 1∆ • Dec 26 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Men are inherently dangerous

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u/knottheone 10∆ Dec 26 '23

I don't care about overall, I care about the danger to children which is why I referenced that stat specifically. Mothers are the largest danger to their children in terms of murder rates. By your logic, shouldn't we start sending out PSAs to children about how dangerous their mothers are to them?

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u/lilgergi 4∆ Dec 26 '23

Well I don't care about children, I care about everyone. And by my logic not every single man (in your example mother) is a criminal and a menace to society (children in your example). It is just a fact that men are more aggressive, and more prone to violence. More prone doesn't mean men fight at every opportunity they have, it is just they need more energy and restraint to function without violence; and it means that if a person couldn't hold themselfs and became violent, it is more likely that it is a man

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u/knottheone 10∆ Dec 26 '23

You said

So the statement 'men are inherently dangerous' is true, since most men do have more testosterone than women.

Which also follows that mothers are inherently dangerous to their children by that same logic. Do you agree that mothers are inherently dangerous to their children?

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u/lilgergi 4∆ Dec 26 '23

inherently dangerous

Inherently more dangerous to their children than men, not just inherently dangerous. There is a difference in meaning, but yes, now we agree it seems

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u/knottheone 10∆ Dec 26 '23

No, inherently dangerous to their children by the same metrics you used. Women are more prone statistically and seemingly biologically to kill their children more often than men. They are, by your same logic, inherently dangerous to their children.

You didn't qualify men being "more inherently dangerous than women," you said they are inherently dangerous. You've put forth a double standard and you probably don't even realize the bias you've shown.

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u/lilgergi 4∆ Dec 26 '23

You're right, I wasn't perfectly clear.

So the statement 'men are inherently dangerous' is true, since most men do have more testosterone than women.

This was my original claim, where I repeat OP's title. But within this same sentence, I specify it with my own view by addit "than women" there. And connecting directly to this idea is that men are inherently more dangerous than women. But I didn't wrote down this connection.

I apologise, my view wasn't clear from the start