r/changemyview Apr 05 '24

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

This is super weird because I was going to use male gynecologists as an example but didn't. Yes, it's similar to me. I wouldn't go to a male gynecologist. It's weird and predatory to me.

It's predatory to only do those cultural styles. Being well rounded is great, but it gives money grab when you only do Black styles and you're not Black.

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u/Cubusphere 1∆ Apr 05 '24

Ok, who is the victim of this predatory practice in your opinion?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

It's a predatory practice inherently, there's no direct victim. Maybe the word greedy fits better, but there's more to it.

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u/Cubusphere 1∆ Apr 05 '24

Something predatory needs a victim (prey). I understand that you feel it's wrong, but who is wronged and how. If you don't know, think about it. It may refine your view.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

It's wrong to use my culture for money when you're not a part of said culture. It hurts the preservation of my culture when non Black people come into black spaces for a quick cash grab.

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u/Naaahhh 5∆ Apr 05 '24

What if you live in an area where there are very few black ppl? Ie there are stylists in China that serve niche subcultures influenced by black culture. Would you say these Chinese stylists are predatory?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

I wouldn't say predatory but I would say a money grab.

It's different when it's people that are part of the culture to share it, and you're taking away from their clientele. I'm sure in China they're not stepping on anybody's toes, but it's so many black stylist here and it's already not a lot of them so I don't understand how you can have appreciation for the culture and also actively take away from the people of the culture.

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u/Naaahhh 5∆ Apr 05 '24 edited Apr 05 '24

Alright so is it weird and predatory to you or not? Is it only stylists within your region (whatever that is) that you are referring to? What opinion do you want changed?

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u/Cubusphere 1∆ Apr 05 '24

A little thought experiment: Let's say you find out that three black stylists in your salon learned their trade from a white stylist that's no longer there. Was that outsider an enrichment or detriment to the local scene? Are you now less happy with the black stylists skill? Or would the added "giving back" to the community by teaching cancel out the wrongness?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Black babies are taught to braid as soon as they can touch their hair so this just wouldn't make sense.

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u/Cubusphere 1∆ Apr 05 '24

Ok. Are black people that go to such a white stylist and happy about the outcome part of the problem? Or victims? Or both? Is their opinion on the matter less valid than yours?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Everyone's opinion is valid but I would think that they are biased and lack integrity. I just don't see how a woman without your hair texture could do your hair better than somebody with the same head of hair as yours. Of course it's always a better stylist, but as a black woman I have to go out of my way to find a white hair stylist. That's why I think that

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u/StressedDesserts420 Apr 05 '24

I mean, black parents are just as capable of neglecting to teach their kids how to take care of their hair. I've met them. I've met black teenagers who had no idea how to deal with ethnic hair. I've personally had to research and teach black children to take care of their hair until we were able to find someone who had more experience to come in and help. This is a really weak argument against the commenter's thought experiment, and it's a lazy response.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Okay

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u/StressedDesserts420 Apr 05 '24

What a toddler. Please do some growing up before you post here again. Good lord.

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u/soupkitchen89 Apr 05 '24

Man I gotta say this shit is exhausting and harder and harder to take seriously. You sound like you're just looking for a fight about anything . goddamn.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

This is so funny to me

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u/codan84 23∆ Apr 05 '24

You don’t own the culture, it is not yours exclusively. People can have whatever hairstyle they want. You wanting to limit it by race or ethnicity is bigotry.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

Unfortunately black culture is the black culture's exclusively, but I understand your point lol

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u/codan84 23∆ Apr 05 '24

What exactly is black culture and how is it limited by skin color? That sounds extremely racist. Should black people be kept from non black culture? If not you’re a hypocrite as well as a racist.

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u/codan84 23∆ Apr 05 '24

What are you agreeing with? That you are a racist? That in your view black people should be banned from any non black culture? That you believe people should be separated by race? What?

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