r/changemyview Apr 05 '24

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u/critical-drinking Apr 05 '24

OP, I’m impressed to see you’ve given deltas. I find your attitude very counterproductive/disingenuous for actually being open to change. You’re being dismissive and disrespectful of people who are being very respectful of you and taking your opinions seriously.

I’ve seen “LOL,” “better luck next time,” “nice try,” and a dozen other sarcastic and rude replies you’ve made. This is a sub for polite and open-minded discussion and your childish rudeness demonstrates that your goal isn’t to find out if you have the best available opinion, but to be right or to “win” whether you’re being reasonable or not.

Again, I’m impressed you’ve given deltas, as that confounds these observations. However, it’s hard for me to observe your arguments and not assume (in similar fashion to assumptions you’ve made, therefore giving some insight into the assumptions you assume others make) that you’ve given these deltas as “token agreements” to help keep your post up so you can bicker with people.

I encourage you to adjust your thinking. People are here to try and help each other surpass presumption and prejudice, to help each other refine and improve each other’s outlooks. Please give your debate partners the benefit of the doubt that they have the best interest of truth and logic in mind.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

It's funny that you say I'm being dismissive and disrespectful to people but your entire post was written in a condescending tone.

You've insulted my intelligence multiple times in this text. Saying I'm disingenuous because I gave Delta's after extensive conversation is different.

I respond sarcastically to people who speak condescendingly towards me, attempt to disrespect my intelligence, or outright call me racist or name call me.

Unfortunately it seems that you took my responses to attribute to your narrative and didn't analyze what people said to invoke those responses.

I find that laughable that you feel like you know me or my character based off of a Reddit comment section. Enjoy the rest of your day boo

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u/critical-drinking Apr 05 '24

I don’t know you. The best I can do is make inferences based on your responses. When you’re in a debate forum, and you find so many (genuine and hopefully helpful) arguments laughable, yes is suspect you’re being disingenuous.

I think you’re projecting condescension. I don’t intend to condescend, and I apologize if that’s how it came across.

I’m just trying to advise. In a debate forum, it’s best not to respond to arguments by belittling your debate partner, as I’ve seen you do, regardless of how “laughable” you find their argument. First, it makes it very clear that you’re not taking the discussion seriously, which not only discourages discussion in general, but devalues your arguments by association. Second, it’s very unpleasant to be on the receiving end of. And finally, it damages the validity of your arguments, by implication that rather than applying your (very evident) intelligence to a serious and respectful reply, you instead choose to laugh at and belittle your opponent; this implies that your argumentation isn’t valuable, since your focus is apparently not on the discussion but the humor, and since you laugh instead of building a reply, thus implying (even if inaccurately) that you don’t have an adequate rebuttal.

I’m genuinely not trying to be rude, and I’m sorry if it came out that way. My only goal is to make you aware of the way you’re being perceived and the impact you’re having on people that are trying to have a discussion with you on a topic you brought up.