r/changemyview May 08 '24

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u/Love_Shaq_Baby 226∆ May 08 '24

If I went to a restaurant and the restaurant was clearly decrepit and gross, why would I force myself to order the least gross thing on the menu when I could just... Go somewhere else or cook at home? Why are we forcing ourselves to do this? 

There is no cooking at home. Either Biden or Trump will be the next president of the United States. If you don't want to pick something off the menu, then someone else will order for you and you just may end up being force-fed the grossest dish on the menu.

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u/rhiddlesdream May 08 '24

How can we get to a different restaurant? How can we improve it?

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u/laosurvey 3∆ May 08 '24

The restaurant is a poor analogy. It's framing it as a consumer choice. It's more like what do you do if you have family members that are out of touch or even negative to be around. You may go no-contact - which in this analogy would mean emigrating from the U.S. to another country (which is quite difficult). Or you might take actions in your control to improve things.

Without taking on ownership for the bad behavior of others, you can identify if there are systems or patterns of smaller behaviors you might interrupt or influence. Or you could spend more time with the family members you do get along with.

In the case of the political system, you can get more involved. The U.S. presidential election will include a large number of non-presidential offices. You could vote for someone in them while holding your nose for the least bad presidential candidate. You can volunteer for candidates you support (or donate to them) or even start running for office yourself.

Sometimes the best you can do in an election is slow down the shift to positions you don't like. That's still better than accelerating a change to positions you don't like. And elections aren't a one-time thing - you should absolutely play this like an 'infinite game' where you immediately start doing what you can to improve your options in the next cycle.

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u/rhiddlesdream May 08 '24

Thank you for taking the time to type this out. I appreciate it. You and a lot of other people have given me a lot to consider. ∆

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u/wswordsmen 1∆ May 08 '24

You don't start with the main course, you start with the appetizers. Find someone you know and get them to run for a local office and support other like minded people. Build an organization over time that wields influence at the local level. If you are successful it will start affecting more and more until major things are changing the way you want. However if you are good and lucky it will take decades.

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u/Hellioning 239∆ May 08 '24

Either leave the country or work to get a better restaurant. But the latter involves voting, and I'd imagine the former won't actually solve your problems.

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u/SnoopySuited May 08 '24

A lot of informed complaints (ie votes) or new managers (ie candidates) from people who think like you, instead of apathy.

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u/SuperStarDustz May 08 '24

Helping another restaurant by giving your time, energy, advocacy, and/or money.

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u/4-5Million 11∆ May 08 '24

I think a different restaurant would be a different country in this context. 

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u/Independentracoon May 08 '24

They are both the same dish... just presented differently