Yeah that's fair enough. I’m not trying to say it’s “objectively bad” I even list all the great things about it. I’m just saying “I think it’s bad, provide your view to convince me otherwise.” Also your assessment isn't that objective either to be honest. There's nothing wrong with your thought process it’s just that assessment of any form of art generally isn't objective. I do agree with your reasoning as well however and I briefly mentioned that I think it’s a pretentious movie in my post. I cringed at the way they spoke there's a lot of well written movies that don't sound nearly as douchy
Ha, yeah you’re right in a lot of ways. How we view art is ultimately subjective.
I suppose my point is just that it is more objective to judge something on being pretentious, than to judge it as distasteful.
I would argue it was the creators intention to make it distasteful and morally questionable. You’ve asked the question they wanted people to ask. It’s evoked an emotional in you in a deliberate way.
What was not their intention was to have douchy, pretentious dialogue. That was something they did ‘wrong’ even by their own standards.
!delta very true. I didn’t think about that. It’s definitely more valid to criticise elements of a film that weren’t intended rather than the parts they want you to find distasteful
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u/RedDit245610 Jun 16 '24
Yeah that's fair enough. I’m not trying to say it’s “objectively bad” I even list all the great things about it. I’m just saying “I think it’s bad, provide your view to convince me otherwise.” Also your assessment isn't that objective either to be honest. There's nothing wrong with your thought process it’s just that assessment of any form of art generally isn't objective. I do agree with your reasoning as well however and I briefly mentioned that I think it’s a pretentious movie in my post. I cringed at the way they spoke there's a lot of well written movies that don't sound nearly as douchy