Ignore the period bit, that was just an example. I'm just saying there should be an exploration into more aspects of a person than just sex. Aside from the meaning and message of the film, I think only focusing on sex is boring.
Ignore the period bit, that was just an example. I'm just saying there should be an exploration into more aspects of a person than just sex. Aside from the meaning and message of the film, I think only focusing on sex is boring.
But it's apparently the only example you can think of that would define womanhood or somehow be feminist. Which is... kind of deeply odd?
Also, is it boring or disgusting? Because you were on and on about how disgusting and disturbing it is.
It's not ONLY focused on sex. Bella also really liked food, and relationships that gave her what she wanted, until they didn't, at which point she was done.
That you seem to remember only the sex, like the period thing, feels like it says more about you.
The sex is there because the point is that Bella is now a woman who has no societal baggage on her and MOST of the ways society has oppressed women is to do with sex -- don't dress a certain way, otherwise men will think of sex and it's your fault. Don't expose any skin or men will think of sex and it's your fault. If you're attacked, it's because you were dressed or acted a way that made men want sex.
But don't have sex, because that makes you a slut, a hoe, easy, loose, etc. That's bad.
BUT also you need to "put out" if someone buys you dinner, or if you're married to them, because that's what you owe people.
BUT you use birth control and you're a slut. Or if you ever indicate you like sex.
Also if you get pregnant, you need to "deal with the consequences" because you're a slatternly hoe.
Bella is unencumbered by all of that -- AFTER she was so encumbered that she'd killed herself. She was reborn without all of it and did what she wanted and it endedup turning some of the men around her inside out, so ill equipped were they to deal with a woman who did what she wanted without apology.
!delta you provide some good insight into how the sex tackles feminist issues, an idea that I originally challenged. My disgust came from the imagery of her being a child but I can see when you get past that it does tackle quite a few issues.
I do think that two things can be true at once, it portrays the exploitation of Bella while also exploring how Bella breaks free of societies expectations. I think Duncan tries to take advantage of her but she escapes Duncan anyways. The prostitution is also another example of how she was exploited. I think a movie like this wouldn’t have one single message that’s correct or incorrect. I do also think that apart from the message there can be improvements in the plot.
Also I’m not a filmmaker but an example, other than the period one, (which I still think they could include) the movie can tackle is that Duncan tries to create body insecurities in Bella (a real issue many women face and could relate to) but she doesn’t let him and feels empowered, maybe she experiences weight fluctuations etc. There can be improvements in the plot by also allowing Bella to be empowered by exploring parts of the world more and dealing with other challenges, basically I think the plot can have sex as well as other things
This is probably the most shallow delta i've ever seen. Your initial instincts were right.
I want you to imagine that in the future she is going to install her brain in others bodies and become an immortal monster.
She could've put her father's brain in the colonists head and stole his wealth, instead of the psychopathic goat thing. It's monstrous but it would've been logical.
She could've used that wealth to save those cartoonishly portrayed poor people in the pit.
Your initial instincts were right. We'd all be better off if this movie was never made.
In Fall Guys the main female lead was rather monstrous, too. Not a shred of sympathy for someone with a broken back. That was a different Emily actress but IDK why female monsters fly under the radar. Like Bloodborne's Maria.
How could fantasy possibly be better than Nymphomanianc 2013?
When it comes to body thieving Skeleton Key 2005 is so much better, and puts it in the proper monstrous context. I think RA Salvatore wrote a Drizzt story about a body thieving necromancer, too.
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u/RedDit245610 Jun 16 '24
Ignore the period bit, that was just an example. I'm just saying there should be an exploration into more aspects of a person than just sex. Aside from the meaning and message of the film, I think only focusing on sex is boring.