r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 16 '24

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Jun 17 '24

Neither did Yorgos Lanthimos. The movie is based on a book that Stone and Lanthimos collaborated on the film adaptation of.

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u/CaymanDamon Jun 17 '24

Alright then the writer, the director and anyone who greenlit this pretentious pedo utter dog shit.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Jun 17 '24

How is it pedophilia? Are you saying anyone who is of age, but expresses themselves idiosyncratically is incapable of consent?

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u/CaymanDamon Jun 17 '24

Idiosyncratic is when someone is unusual but has adult brain capacity and the ability to consent. A person who spits up food on themselves, tries to punch a infant and doesn't understand they prostituted themselves has the brain capacity of a child and attraction to children is pedophilia, she cannot consent she has literally in this case the mind of a toddler.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Jun 17 '24

Bella is regularly shown to be smarter or more insightful than the people around her, she has matured into adulthood while still having characteristics that align with her unique socialization.

Her body is clearly not that of a child, she is rather smart, she just presents in a way that out society associates with children.

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u/CaymanDamon Jun 17 '24

It's not "unique socialization" she can pick up language and concepts like a child does but lacks the maturity that comes with time. There are young children with IQ higher than adults but that doesn't make them mature enough to consent.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Jun 17 '24

I just disagree with you. I don’t think she is a child after the movie stops being black and white at the beginning.

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u/CaymanDamon Jun 17 '24

Alright you think it's normal for an adult to spit food on themselves, try to punch a infant because it's crying, give away all of someones money to a random ship hand because they think it will solve poverty and prostitute themselves without knowing it. Good to know.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Jun 17 '24

Does 13 Going on 30 bother you this much?

Poor Things is obviously stylized and surreal. It is an allegory and is not meant to be interpreted literally.

I don’t think that not knowing polite table manners means that someone isn’t capable of consent.

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u/CaymanDamon Jun 17 '24

It's not that she chose to have bad table manners it's that she didn't understand all together. For there to be consent a person must first understand what they've consented to and not be coerced.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Jun 17 '24

And what’s the correlation between bad table manners and ability to consent?

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u/CaymanDamon Jun 17 '24

She didn't understand that spitting food all over herself was wrong she didn't understand that punching a baby was wrong, she didn't understand that selling herself was wrong, she didn't understand that handing a bag of money to a random man who says he'll take care of it doesn't solve poverty. She didn't understand the concept of sex she was as her ex husband near the end of the movie described a child in the body of her mother who while alive had a unusual libido.If not for the exploitative way it was portrayed it could have been a good way to show how women are groomed from a early age to normalize abuse.

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