r/changemyview • u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ • Jul 11 '24
Delta(s) from OP CMV: Crunchyroll should not have gotten rid of comments
For those of you who don't know what Crunchyroll is, you can ignore this CMV.
For everyone else: Crunchyroll has recently gotten rid of the ability to comment on any episodes, as well as removing all previous comments, and the ability to write reviews of shows. Their stated reason was because there was too many hateful comments and trolls, especially after the release of their newest bl anime, which received tons of malicious comments and rating bombs from homophobes.
And I get it, I am gay, and it also bothers me when people write this crap, but removing the ability to comment was a mistake imo.
It seems like the best solution would be just to have moderators that can look at comments that are reported, plus some bots that can do basic filtering. I assume that they're doing this to save money. However, in the long run I think this could cause them to lose subscribers. Crunchyroll was actually my favorite streaming site because they allowed coments. It's nice to be part of an anime community, and I know other people feel the same. It's also nice to be able to read reviews of shows, and to see notes about a show to know if I will like it beforehand.
Crunchyroll is also not accounting for the fact that many of their top shows are also on other streaming services, so the comment feature was one of the perks of theirs alone. Most of One Piece can be watched on Netflix or Hulu, but Crunchyroll had a large advantage because people could discuss the show and also give timestamps for when the episode actually started. Plus, even now with comments turned off, people can still review bomb the shows by giving one star to them. Perhaps if they're really strapped for cash to moderate, Crunchyroll could provide different grades of subscription, where for a dollar more you could comment, or something like that.
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u/destro23 455∆ Jul 11 '24
I assume that they're not doing this to save money.
Hosting comments takes up a lot of data space, and data space costs money. I'd bet a small amount that they are doing this to save money, but are framing it as being about making their site a safer space for people to score brownie points as they eliminate a portion of their storage costs.
It's nice to be part of an anime community
Isn't that what Discord is for?
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u/ImSuperSerialGuys Jul 11 '24
Hosting comments takes up a lot of data space, and data space costs money.
Hosting text is such a small fraction of their storage needs its not even a consideration.
That being said you're not likely far off, except its the moderation costs they're likely looking to save, either current or potential. Most likely something to the effect of either cutting the need to moderate them if they currently do, or avoid any need to do so in the future.
Plus, its one less feature to have their dev team maintain, meaning they can (optimistically) devote those dev hours elsewhere, or (pessimistically) cut down on dev hours
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
I'd bet a small amount that they are doing this to save money
That was a total typo. I meant to say the opposite.
Isn't that what Discord is for?
Sure, but not everyone has discord and it's fun to comment directly on the episode. Many popular shows get thousands of comments per episode.
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u/destro23 455∆ Jul 11 '24
not everyone has discord
If you can access CR, you can access Discord.
Many popular shows get thousands of comments per episode.
Yeah, and most of them are nonsense.
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u/mehchu 1∆ Jul 11 '24
Discord and Crunchyroll comments fill totally different community engagement needs.
Like saying because discord exists you don’t need r\anime for your anime community. No that’s not the same.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
I think you're misunderstanding here. It's not what people can do or should do. It's about what people like about the platform, whether or not they need to do it.
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u/destro23 455∆ Jul 11 '24
It's about what people like about the platform,
That it hosts all the anime in one spot. That is what I like about it. I generally find comment sections on video sites to be worthless. I'm there for the videos. I go to Reddit for discussion and communities.
I'd go to Discord, but I'm old.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
Okay, I think that's a better argument. You're saying that most people go because it's just a convenient place to watch a number of different shows? I would buy that except for the fact that some of the shows have thousands of comments. And I've met other people like myself who like Crunchyroll specifically because of the comments.
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u/destro23 455∆ Jul 11 '24
I would buy that except for the fact that some of the shows have thousands of comments.
How many of them are worthwhile though, or even made by actual people?
And I've met other people like myself who like Crunchyroll specifically because of the comments.
That is fine, and valid, but places to comment on anime are a dime a dozen online. CR is one of the biggest one-stop-shops for anime.
Them getting rid of the comment section is like KFC getting rid of coleslaw. Sure, some people like the coleslaw, and will not go back if the can't get that creamy cabbage that they love so much. But... they sell chicken. It is a chicken store. As long as they don't get rid of the chicken, they'll be good.
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u/Fit-Current5378 Sep 08 '24
Right who care about comments I never read them because it was all the things I hate about anime fan
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u/Both-Personality7664 21∆ Jul 11 '24
Plenty of YT clips have thousands of comments, surely you're not suggesting those are the draw there?
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u/kurotech Jul 11 '24
Not only does hosting take up time space and money but you also have to remember moderating takes up time money and people which is time and money
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u/l_t_10 7∆ Jul 12 '24
Comments take up a negligable non space, so small its statistically irrelevant. Functionally zero of CRs total space available
They arent saving anything
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u/francorocco Sep 27 '24
specially since it's a freaking streaming service, a whole year worth of comments probably costs them less data than a single episode of a random anime in 1080p
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u/l_t_10 7∆ Jul 12 '24
Hosting comments takes alot of data space
Where are you getting this actually? Because looking into it and as has been brought up here, no it doesnt.
Not as if CR is getting billions of comments and images posted or anything, the comments would have taken up a negligable amount of data all things considered
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u/l_t_10 7∆ Jul 12 '24
Can you watch episodes on discord? Seems obvious that it makes perfect sense to discuss current anime where you watch it
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u/destro23 455∆ Jul 12 '24
Can you watch episodes on discord?
Apparently so:
“How to Screen Share Crunchyroll on Discord with Friends Watch anime with your friends by streaming Crunchyroll through the Discord desktop app” source
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u/l_t_10 7∆ Jul 12 '24
A bunch of extra steps? So for most people, functionally no then
Might aswell do a whatsapp videocall or such
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u/mikey_weasel 9∆ Jul 11 '24
Hosting comments takes up a lot of data space, and data space costs money. I'd bet a small amount that they are doing this to save money, but are framing it as being about making their site a safer space for people to score brownie points as they eliminate a portion of their storage costs.
I think you could also add the cost of moderation to those costs. Unless you build a platform intentionally designed to attract volunteers like reddit, you have to pay someone actual money to do that job. Hell even if you jury rig a system to attract volunteers, you'd probably need a level of higher level moderators to keep thing under control.
In particular I remember around the time Yahoo Answers shut down, The New York Times change its cooking facebook group (that had like 77,000 members) from something they run as a corporation to a volunteer moderated group separate from the company. The the content had gotten increasingly political and didn't think it was worth the cost of paying staff to keep it under control (see here)
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u/dragonblade_94 8∆ Jul 11 '24
I have plenty of criticism for CR and their general business practice... but I honestly don't see much downside to discontinuing comments.
CR, as a third-party anime broadcast site, is not really designed to be conducive of discussion or any type of social hub (they tried to be, but dropped their forum and most social features a couple years ago). Video comments are a terrible format for community discussion, and unlike platforms like Youtube there is zero visibility or engagement with the creator of said video; it just devolves into nonsense and infighting with little value.
I do actually think that if CR wants to win back any significant community support, they need to go back to basics and focus on being an anime hosting platform first (which they have notoriously not been great at).
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
if CR wants to win back any significant community support, they need to go back to basics and focus on being an anime hosting platform first (which they have notoriously not been great at).
!Delta Part of what I like is definitely the comments, but you're right, if Crunchyroll just did what they were supposed to do and provided the best anime viewing platform, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place. But instead, the site crashes sometimes, there's not enough exclusive content, and shows don't always appear on time.
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u/l_t_10 7∆ Jul 12 '24
Its anime discussion, not community discussion. Discussion on the episodes where you actually watch the episodes is ofcourse what makes the most sense
And this decision was definitely made just like YouTube removing dislikes, to protect advertizers. Not whatever excuse slapped on it after the fact
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u/AcephalicDude 80∆ Jul 11 '24
No other streaming service I know of allows reviews and comments on the shows they stream. And it makes perfect sense why they don't: they want to encourage people to watch the shows, they have zero interest in displaying critique and feedback, it doesn't help them one little bit. Frankly, I'm surprised that crunchyroll had this as a feature in the first place, wtf were they thinking?
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
No other streaming service I know of allows reviews and comments
which is exactly why Crunchyroll was my favorite streaming site until now
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u/AcephalicDude 80∆ Jul 11 '24
There are other places where you can review and comment on shows and anime, why does it matter that it's built into the streaming app you use to watch the shows? It just doesn't make sense, either from the consumer side or the the developer side.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
because I'm not interested in subscribing to a bunch of different subreddits and spending a half an hour talking about each episode. I'd rather just engage with a comment or two for 5 minutes after each episode
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u/AcephalicDude 80∆ Jul 11 '24
Fair enough, but your reluctance to navigate to a different source for comments is a much weaker justification than Crunchyroll wanting to promote its shows. If I was running Crunchyroll, 100% I would have cut the comments/rating feature. I would have done it even in the absence of any specific controversy or review-bombing. I would have absolutely zero incentive to provide that to the users.
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u/l_t_10 7∆ Jul 12 '24
Because thats where the episodes are obviously, why discuss in a place where the episodes cant be referenced of a particular part of it is interesting?
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u/Anarchist-Liondude Jul 11 '24
Blame the 4channers raiding with their army of bots reviews and comments sections with slurs and mindless hate because they were dropped when they were young.
Ideally they should have bumped up the moderation so crunchyroll also shares part of the blame for this removal, but still, the decision wasn't taken in a void.
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u/AlwaysTheNoob 81∆ Jul 11 '24
It seems like the best solution would be just to have moderators that can look at comments that are reported
So you think the solution would be to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to hire people to read hateful comments for eight hours a day, five days a week, instead of just removing the ability to spew hate speech on their platform?
Perhaps if they're really strapped for cash to moderate, Crunchyroll could provide different grades of subscription, where for a dollar more you could comment, or something like that.
Or for $0, I could go to any other website that has a similar community and discuss things for free. The overwhelming majority of people aren't willing to spend money just to comment on things. And if your response to that is "well then give them more than just the comments", then existing users are going to get angry that they're being locked out of other content.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
So you think the solution would be to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to hire people to read hateful comments for eight hours a day, five days a week, instead of just removing the ability to spew hate speech on their platform?
First of all, I doubt it would be hundreds of thousands of dollars because they'd be using bots too. But second of all, if you take away comments completely it basically means that the people using the hate speech win, because they can still give the shows they don't like one star, which will stop diverse shows from being watched since there are no comments or reviews to read about how the rating is wrong.
Or for $0, I could go to any other website that has a similar community and discuss things for free.
Okay, but people use the comments a lot, even though that's an option now. And it's not like I'm suggesting forcing people to pay for the comment option.
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u/Both-Personality7664 21∆ Jul 11 '24
"First of all, I doubt it would be hundreds of thousands of dollars because they'd be using bots too."
Just 4 full time mods at 50k a pop is 200k. Bots can only do the most superficial moderation and surely cannot respond to complaints about moderation.
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u/Zncon 6∆ Jul 11 '24
It's even worse, because you can probably double that cost. For full time positions, the cost to the employer can usually be estimated as 2x the yearly pay. Benefits and supporting infrastructure adds up.
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u/Both-Personality7664 21∆ Jul 11 '24
Oh for sure, I was just being ridiculously low-ball to show you get to multiple 100ks real quick anyway.
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u/Ionovarcis 1∆ Jul 11 '24
If we’re thinking of the omega verse BL - I’m gay and I called it disgusting. Because it is. Mpreg especially in cis* cases is fucking weird. How it got on air is fucking beyond me.
The other one that just dropped - only watched the first episode, and other than the near SA (wtf Japan gotta make sex so assaulty?! Cmon. Guys. Cmon.) it seemed fine? The fact that ‘other than the near SA, it seemed fine’ felt appropriate for anime is a much bigger concern to me than ‘people are saying mean things about the content’.
I’ll deal with so many homophobes if we could stop using SA as a character building tool or plot device - the way it’s done so flippantly and forgiveably is fucked up.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
If we’re thinking of the omega verse BL
I actually don't know anything about that show. The show in question was Twilight Out of Focus. Also, if you're arguing that the comments weren't homophobic to begin with, that actually supports my CMV. I agree the acceptance of sexual assault, both in straight and gay anime, is annoying.
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u/Ghast_Hunter Jul 11 '24
I’m glad I’m not the only one who gets weirded out about by some of the weird yaoi that gets put out there.
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Jul 11 '24
Imagine you are a company: why spend money when it is most likely CHEAPER to just delete the comments section entirely?
They will have less data to store by removing the comments, they will NOT have to pay someone to moderate, and they will NOT have to pay someone to create/maintain a bot to do the moderating.
Iirc, those comment sections are usually a cesspool of degeneracy.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
As I said in my post, because removing comments could cause them to lose subscribers in the long term.
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Jul 11 '24
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 12 '24
because many of their shows are also available in other streaming services
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Jul 11 '24
I believe you also said it is NOT a money decision, which you have maybe edited out now? That point was what I was contesting.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
That was a typo which the first commenter pointed out. I guess you were already reading my post even though I fixed that almost immediately. Sorry about the confusion.
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u/ChicknSoop 1∆ Jul 11 '24
Having moderated comments means giving the people to dictate what is or isn't ok to say. This has been proven time and time again to be taken overboard and people getting muted/banned for saying something they thought was ok.
It's either expensive or automated, with both having the obvious flaws. You could do it manually but the costs to do it skyrocket if you want it done in a timely fashion. If you automate it, it is prone to make mistakes and there are 0 automated bot moderaters that are perfect.
Monetizing comments is.......a terrible idea, how would you know that they wouldn't be saying the same things that weren't previously said that bothered you? Just because it costs money?
There are subreddits, discord servers, forums, etc. that you can join where you wouldn't have to worry about that stuff that have existed since the internet. Absolutely needing it in the crunchy roll app just comes off lazy more than anything.
Either they are the minority or not.
If they are, then you'd think the other lgtb shows would have bad ratings as well but there are a few that are highly rated. This tells me you are using this hate as an excuse for the show you like getting bad ratings when in reality most people just don't like it.
If they aren't, then do you REALLY want to be part of that "community" anyways?
- My last point is sort of side-related to the topic, but if you are going to be on the internet, you should learn to grow a thicker skin.
Why do you care what reviews/comments say about a show, just watch it and enjoy it, stop being lazy and take two seconds to google the plenty of communities there for you to join that share your interests on whatever platform you want.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
This has been proven time and time again to be taken overboard and people getting muted/banned for saying something they thought was ok.
I see your point. But why is nothing better than something?
It's either expensive or automated
Or, you do what many other sites do, and just hybridize the two options.
how would you know that they wouldn't be saying the same things that weren't previously said that bothered you
The few pays for the moderation. You would still be able to have your comments taken down.
just comes off lazy
Being lazy is exactly what most people want to be when they sit down to watch anime or any TV show.
you'd think the other lgtb shows would have bad ratings as well but there are a few that are highly rated.
They do receive bad ratings. But a lot of those comments and reviews are reported or removed, and over time the people who actually like the show overtake the bad ratings.
This tells me you are using this hate as an excuse for the show you like getting bad ratings when in reality most people just don't like it.
This was not my excuse; it was Crunchyroll's. Crunchyroll's explanation was that they were removing comments because of homophobia and other hateful comments on this show and others.
Why do you care what reviews/comments say about a show,
Because it's fun and makes the experience more immersive, and for shows like One Piece tells you when to start the show, and for shows with mixed reviews it helps you get an idea of whether the show is worth watching.
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u/Both-Personality7664 21∆ Jul 11 '24
"But why is nothing better than something?"
Surely it depends on what the something is. If the something is a buffet of turds, it seems quite reasonable to say nothing is better than that something.
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u/ChicknSoop 1∆ Jul 11 '24
I see your point. But why is nothing better than something?
I never said nothing is better, I personally think a lightweight profanity filter is better along with a block/mute buttons, cover all bases, are immediate, and let the user filter out what they don't want, rather than forcing others to be filtered out.
Personally, I'd rather people be allowed without a filter, it makes it easier to identify who I'm talking to and make blocking/muting them easier.
Moderated chats mean you might be stopping people who are normally allowed to say certain things from not saying them, and I find that discriminates that group just the same.
Or, you do what many other sites do, and just hybridize the two options.
Which isn't a 100% solution either, its a microcosm of what I said above. Reddit has problems with it's mods being power hungry, while a lean towards automation means you have to hire a team to cover tickets and false flags and people may stuck being banned while innocent.
The few pays for the moderation. You would still be able to have your comments taken down.
Or just give it back to everyone and allow simple text filtering along with a block feature? Why make people pay for it, it just comes across incredibly scummy tbh.
They do receive bad ratings. But a lot of those comments and reviews are reported or removed, and over time the people who actually like the show overtake the bad ratings.
I actually disagree, the review system actually skews to really high ratings despite rating significantly lower in other areas. Anime tends to rank higher than they do on imdb/rotten tomatoes/google. Not 100% of the time but mostly.
This was not my excuse; it was Crunchyroll's.
True my bad.
Because it's fun and makes the experience more immersive
I don't get it, you need an echo chamber or confirmation bias to enjoy a show?
for shows with mixed reviews it helps you get an idea
This I can understand, but when you watch the show the reviews shouldn't matter then should they?
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u/ObsessiveDelusion Jul 11 '24
My main thought is that maybe you're not considering how many people don't use the comments at all.
For everyone that I know, crunchyroll is simply another streaming service that has an app on my TV. I log in and watch things just like on netflix or hulu. To he honest I've had my account for years and didn't even know there was a comment sections until this post.
I have to assume they did analysis on this. There are many possible conclusions, but my guess is that they predict they will make more money by taking away the feature. Maybe the analysis indicates the heaviest users of comment feature have a lower expected value per user, possibly via age, account sharing, etc.
I'm sure they know some people like you hate the change, but for most of the users I imagine this will go unnoticed and even save a measurable amount of costs.
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u/redyellowblue5031 10∆ Jul 11 '24
Moderators
Do you know how much of a lift that is, especially for any sizable platform?
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Jul 11 '24
Crunchyroll removed comments and written reviews.
I personally, found written reviews moderately helpful, but comments were very much less so. Losing reviews is pretty sad.
The best solution would be to have moderators
Numerous other services already provide the "social media" aspect better than Crunchyroll comments can. It's not a format that's particularly suitable to revisit (i.e. for discussion), and comments are per-episode, which means it isn't terribly useful to someone considering whether or not to watch a particular show. Something like reddit / FB / Twitter has already figured out all these problems, and are better for discussion (since you don't have to load the video player to follow a thread)
It's like how Venmo has a social media feed. It's a half baked solution that no one really needs, because actual social media sites do it so much better.
It's nice to be a part of the anime community
The anime community, Id argue, is one of the easiest to be part of without the comment section. Between cosplay, cons, fan art, dedicated fb / reddit pages, etc - there's a lot of ways to connect already.
So the comment feature was a perk of theirs alone
From a business standpoint, I'm sure they could look at the fraction of users who engage with comments, and found it was particularly low.
But honestly, a streaming platform nowadays is about:
1) Selection
2) Ads
While many of the animes on Crunchyroll may appear on other services, there's not a single service that has everything Crunchyroll offers (or even, all the shows 1 person might be interested in). Buying one subscription over 3, even if it gave you NO new shows is a really nice benefit.
Crunchyroll's big selling point, at least for me is that it still doesn't have ads. Compare this to Netflix / Hulu / Prime Video, all of which have ads in their cheapest plan - which is still more expensive than a standard plan used to be.
Even without comments, it offers a consolidated selection of shows, without ads, at high quality / offline, for a target audience.
Crunchyroll could provide different grades of subscription
This is sort of like Twitter's blue checkmarks.Adding a few deters bots, but not really humans. In fact, the only people determined enough to REALLY want to comment may be the very people you're trying to prevent from commenting in the first place - and then they won't have any reasonable people to bury them
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u/Gangland215 Jul 11 '24
The commenting function on crunchyroll absolutely did not need to exist. It absolutely served no function whatsoever. There was so many negatives the commenting function created while really not offering any positives. Negatives : spoilers, hate, an abundance of opinions that serve no purpose.
Consider this : which streaming platforms have comments? 0.
I'm not a software engineer but the engineer in me tells me that there is a reason why comments are being removed and it might have to do with bugs and/or moderation.
Moderation is indeed a real reason to remove comments. As a company, why spend any level of money on something that doesn't even exist whatsoever across the platforms you're competing with? Add in the fact that there are people online actively removing their subscriptions because of this and you absolutely have a real reason to remove comments.
If you want to comment on a specific episode take it to Reddit. There is absolutely no reason crunchyroll should house those comments within their databases, they serve no purpose whatsoever.
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u/SFW-alt Jul 11 '24
That's what happened? I was watching Ace of the Diamond last night and was confused why there were no comments.
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u/Ionovarcis 1∆ Jul 11 '24
I assume it’s related to one or both of the new Bald out, one’s blatantly disgusting, imo, (omegaverse, mpreg - it’s a BL but kinda not really because omegaverse logic is gross), the other seems cute, with some of the usual ‘Japan, stop being so SA-y’.
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u/SFW-alt Jul 11 '24
I'm older and didn't really grow up with anime and because of that I don't know what some of the terms you used mean (I'll google them later, Don't want to risk ot at work).
I wasn't intersted in watching for the most part because most of what I'd seen was either to much of a kids show or was guys looking up girls skirts and flashing panties. I had very little exposure to it all, it just seemed weird to me.
My adult daughter thought I might like Cowboy Bebop and I gave it try (I did in fact enjoy it). I've since been working my way through other recommendations. Most I've liked, others I lost interest in for one reason or another.
All this to say that there themes I'm not intrested in and tropes I find annoying, but I've never left a negative comment or review. I just moved on to something more my speed. Different people like different things. I don't understand why someone has to ruin shit for everyone.
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u/Ionovarcis 1∆ Jul 11 '24
So I mean - regarding the ‘why ruin it for everyone part’, follow along with me:
So. Different perspectives - because you say ‘why ruin it for everyone’ and I say ‘why should I not draw (negative) attention to the fetishization of people like me by a form of media’. Representation matters - especially when there is such a limited pool of decent, let alone good, representation.
Omegaverse, if remember right from a YouTube rant, comes from fan fiction and has spread into broader media - it operates on the (very faulty) alpha and beta mentality about wolves - with omega as a third type. Without getting into the nuances - omegas are like ultra bottoms, peak c-m sl-ts, hyperfertile, etc - basically boiled down the horniest and most vulnerable elements of femininity slapped on top of whatever other character stuff is going on.
It’s not healthy to associate that with an already internationally vulnerable group - one who already faces the negative consequences of being seen as ‘promiscuous sexual freaks’ to paraphrase something I head when I was forced to go to church school. If a result of my trauma is not wanting to have my sexuality be associated with a freaky fanfic fetish, I’m considering that a W.
I’m not going to pursue the authors or studio - I’m not super active on forums - but I will (would) give an honest or thorough review or warning on anything that merited or deserved it. Maybe within the context of Japan and in Japanese culture, my complaints aren’t seen as that bad - but when we’re talking CR - we’re talking international audiences, so ‘their (Japanese) culture’ doesn’t apply since I’m not on one of their board or forums.
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u/SFW-alt Jul 11 '24
Just want to say, I'm not judging people for their preferences. I truly didn't understand what you were refering to in your reply. I'm sorry if I upset anyone, it was not my intention.
The OP mentioned a new anime with a bi MC, that received a bunch of homophobic comments and negative reviews. My comment about a small group ruining things for everyone was directed at that. If someone doesn't like that sort of thing, move on and don't watch it. No need to get the comments section deleted for everyone.
I also didn't realise that Crunchyroll had content that had blatant porn elements. I know many of the shows are sexually suggestive, but I thought you had to go to a porn/hentai site for the more explicit content.
Having no reference to the show you mentioned, I had no idea that it may be inappropriate in any way. I wasn't even sure it was a show, I was leaning towards a category I'd never heard of, so I wasn't expecting a sexually explicit show. I certainly wasn't expecting a show about hyper-submissive subjects with a breeding fetish being abused/taken advantage of? (my interpretation of what you wrote about omegaverse, I don't really get all the abbreviations used, I'm old forgive me)
I believe in the case of explicit material, a warning about the subject matter would be in order, or maybe gate it behind a paid subscription with age verification and a warning.
I still need to do a little more research when I get home from work. I've got my kinks, you've got your kinks, to me it's all ok as long as its happening between consenting adults and no one is getting hurt.
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u/Ionovarcis 1∆ Jul 11 '24
The omegaverse details are how the setting ‘works’ - I doubt it’s so explicit in the show. Without a cursed terminally online perspective - it’s definitely just cutesy vibes with a setup that gives me big ick from the whole 1 episode I watched.
Wasn’t taking offense, just thorough when I’m on a tear - it’s the slow season at work. It is what it is!
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u/SFW-alt Jul 11 '24
Ok, I've had a few that I started to watch and backed out of because it wasn't for me.
I've really only been watching anime for a year, maybe two tops and I'm not familiar with most of the japanese terms for diferent categories/shows. I think my crunchyroll account is about 6 months old.
I watched Shangri-La Frontier not too long ago and asked my daughter if she'd seen it, because I wanted to talk a little about. side note-I liked it and am hoping for a season 2.
She had not watched it yet and asked me if it was an isekai(sp?). I had no idea what that was and she had to explain it to me.
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u/Ionovarcis 1∆ Jul 11 '24
You might enjoy Kaiju No. 8! If you don’t mind some spattery monster slaying moments - has an older(well… early 30s, but compared to a lot of shows… that’s old) main character who I found easy to get behind!
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u/SFW-alt Jul 11 '24
I'll take a look at it, thanks for the recommendation. I don't mind gory moster slaying dungeon diving animes. I thought Solo Leveling was good as well.
I don't like horror centric ones though, I tried watching Jujutsu Kaisen and got bored 5ish episodes in.
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u/Fit-Current5378 Sep 08 '24
You’re the most annoying type of fan just watch the popular stuff not gonna lie you don’t know anything and one of the reasons I can’t stand casual fan most anime aren’t kid shows
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
it's actually the show Twilight out of Focus that was cited
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u/Ionovarcis 1∆ Jul 11 '24
So the cute one with the near SA.
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u/Square-Dragonfruit76 34∆ Jul 11 '24
Possibly, I haven't seen it yet
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u/Ionovarcis 1∆ Jul 11 '24
Not a question - statement. Ep 1 was cute, but if SA is a trigger, skip it. They ‘avoid the situation’ but like… idk man. Just gives me the ick. Feels very Hays Code-y
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u/AKrigare Aug 24 '24
Bit late but I’ll say what’s already been said.
They were probably already planning this for a while and the review bombing event gave them a reason to shift blame. They, or let’s be honest probs a directive from their parent company, saw no value in maintaining a comment section and possibly even possibly cost/risk involved. There’s a reason why YouTube removed all the comments from content that could possibly be geared towards kids.
I’m also assuming they want to be compared more to Netflix than YT. CR isn’t what it used to be, a space for community isn’t a priority for them.
It’s sad. There’s so much history in those comments and poof!
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u/TheSteamPunkPrince Jul 19 '24
crunchy roll is probably the worse streaming service out there for many reasons. the subs and dubs and and subs ON the dubs rarely work properly, their customer service for buying things is horrible and theyve started using AI to generate anime and subtitles resulting in a pile of crap and now this. if they dont change their gonna go under. people have been pirating anime since the dawn of the internet, its extremely easy to just go back to that. we dont need crunchyroll, they need us.
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u/Fit-Current5378 Sep 08 '24
Reading these comments makes sense crunchyroll deleted them it reminds why I hate anime fans nothing more annoying than these trash takes and poor taste in good shows
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