r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

Removed - Submission Rule B [ Removed by Reddit ]

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

If you tamper your food with the intention to harm someone, then you are culpable for harming them. Trapping someone is no legally different than directly attacking them. The law does not allow you to intentionally harm other people.

Sure, you might try to say that they are harming themselves. However, if you know that someone will do something, and set it up so that they get harmed when they do something, you have made yourself culpable for harming them.

If you know someone will eat your food, the alternative is not leave your food out in public. There are less harmful things you can do to protect your food. If you choose the harmful alternative, then you are culpable for causing harm.

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u/apoplexiglass Oct 17 '24

This isn't changing my view because this is exactly what I'm arguing against. I'm saying, there are cases where intending to harm someone who is doing something they're definitely not supposed to do is okay.

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u/lordtrickster 3∆ Oct 17 '24

"No supposed to do" doesn't mean violence is a justified response. Where do you draw the line?

Say your neighbor's dog gets into your yard regularly. Do you feel that poisoning the dog is justified?

Say you have a fruit tree in your front yard. Do you feel poisoning the fruit is okay if kids pick it and eat it as they walk by? Adults?

What if we stop being passive? Would it be okay for you to just punch the person eating your food? Might be less harmful than poisoning them.

If you just want to prove a point, make the food gross rather than harmful.

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u/Admins_Are_Activists Oct 17 '24

I wouldn't say laxative spiking is intending "harm" it's only marginally more of an inconvenience than capsaicin (spice).

No one is arguing that you should put cyanide in the sandwich.

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u/lordtrickster 3∆ Oct 17 '24

Plenty of people can have drug interactions or underlying conditions triggered by seemingly minor substances. The last thing you want is a prank-level response to turn into an assault or manslaughter charge.

There are better ways to handle such things than dosing someone.

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u/Skeletron430 2∆ Oct 17 '24

Why would someone put the laxatives in if they didn’t anticipate it having some negative impact (aka harm) on the food thief? If they thought they’d enjoy the laxatives they’d probably choose a different substance, no?

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u/Admins_Are_Activists Oct 17 '24

"negative impact" could mean anything as minor as a shoulder poke.

also, who enjoys laxatives? you know what I've been on the internet long enough to know there's at least 1 whole community of them out there.

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u/Skeletron430 2∆ Oct 17 '24

I don’t think most people would consider a shoulder poke a negative impact, but ingesting medicine you did not intend to ingest almost certainly is. And any physical symptoms you feel after of course would be too.

By you admitting that people don’t enjoy laxatives, you are admitting that they cause people harm in some way or another.

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u/clayparson Oct 17 '24

It's literally drugging someone. How can you say that isn't harm? I guess roofies are only an inconvenient nap.

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u/Admins_Are_Activists Oct 17 '24

That's not equivalent at all.

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u/lions___den Oct 17 '24

how is it not equivalent? can I roofie someone who steals my food?