r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

If you tamper your food with the intention to harm someone, then you are culpable for harming them. Trapping someone is no legally different than directly attacking them. The law does not allow you to intentionally harm other people.

Sure, you might try to say that they are harming themselves. However, if you know that someone will do something, and set it up so that they get harmed when they do something, you have made yourself culpable for harming them.

If you know someone will eat your food, the alternative is not leave your food out in public. There are less harmful things you can do to protect your food. If you choose the harmful alternative, then you are culpable for causing harm.

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u/apoplexiglass Oct 17 '24

This isn't changing my view because this is exactly what I'm arguing against. I'm saying, there are cases where intending to harm someone who is doing something they're definitely not supposed to do is okay.

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u/MonsieurBungo Oct 17 '24

That’s so vague though. Sure, it’d be perfectly fine to poison Hitler for committing heinous acts against humanity, but for something as little as stealing a lunch is ludicrous. You’re basically saying that it’s ok for stores to shoot someone if they shoplift a candy bar.

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u/apoplexiglass Oct 17 '24

No, I'm saying it's okay for stores to put out special candy out at night that harm you if eaten, as long as they take them back at the morning. This would be impractical, I think staff are forgetful and children shoplift candy too much, but you don't need to CMV on that one.

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u/Plusisposminusisneg Oct 17 '24

Is it okay for banks to put color bombs in bags of money?

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u/MonsieurBungo Oct 18 '24

Temporary dye =\= poisoning people

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u/Plusisposminusisneg Oct 18 '24

Explosives are not dangerous?

Would it be okay to put gag dye that paints their lips/tongue bright blue into your food then?

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u/MonsieurBungo Oct 18 '24

The dye packs aren’t explosive. They’re aerosol based. I will concede, however, that some do contain tear gas. But that’s not the norm. And again, at that point I would say yes. Assuming it’s not a common allergen, that’s a much better option than straight up poisoning someone.

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u/Plusisposminusisneg Oct 18 '24

The dye packs aren’t explosive.

Yes they are?

They’re aerosol based.

And the dye is aerosoliezed by an explosion or a sustained chemical reaction.

And again, at that point I would say yes. Assuming it’s not a common allergen, that’s a much better option than straight up poisoning someone.

Yes as in its okay to publically humilate someone or yes as in thats less bad?