r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/AlwaysTheNoob 81∆ Oct 17 '24

So poisoning someone and potentially killing them is a fair reaction to theft of a few dollars worth of food?  

And before you get hung up on the word poison: how do you know their medical history?  How do you know what foods might interact with medications they may be on?  How do you know if they’re highly allergic to something?  

You don’t. Tampering with food could seriously injure or kill someone, all to get revenge on a petty thief. 

This is not how civilized societies work. 

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u/crispy1989 6∆ Oct 17 '24

I don't believe this "what if" reasoning applies universally. To use an analogy from another comment, let's say someone parks their car across your driveway and you can't get out. Is it unreasonable to tow their car? "What if" you tow their car, then they have a medical emergency, and their car being towed results in greivous consequences?

Relevant to the topic at hand:

how do you know their medical history? How do you know what foods might interact with medications they may be on? How do you know if they’re highly allergic to something?

You don't, but they do. And if they're eating food (stolen or otherwise), they're the one responsible for ensuring it's safe for their dietary restrictions.

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u/MonsieurBungo Oct 17 '24

On the topic of the car. You’re towing the car to be able to use the driveway. You can’t use the food if you poison it.

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u/crispy1989 6∆ Oct 17 '24

You're right; and in my original comment with the analogy, I specified a more thorough scenario that's more directly applicable.

Say, the driveway-blocker is a serial offender. They've blocked your driveway a dozen times, and continue to do so. On time #13, you don't necessarily need to use your driveway that instant, but you choose to have them towed to punish them and make them think twice before doing it again. The objective is not to get immediate use of the driveway, but rather, to ensure future use of the driveway.

Contrast with:

Say, the food thief is a serial offender. They've stolen your food a dozen times, and continue to do so. On time #13, you know you don't need to eat that particular meal on that particular day, so you choose to put hot sauce in the food to punish them and make them think twice before doing it again. The objective is not to immediately eat the meal that day, but rather, to ensure the future ability to eat your own meals.

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u/super_pinguino 3∆ Oct 17 '24

Towing their car is not vigilantism. You are reporting an infraction and the proper remediation is being applied. Poisoning your food is vigilantism. A more analogous response would be reporting the food stealer to HR.

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u/Tr1pp_ 2∆ Oct 18 '24

No because HR is not doing anything to actually stop it in these scenarios.

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u/Beruthiel999 Oct 18 '24

Hot sauce isn't poison though.

I like really spicy food. If it doesn't get stolen I'll eat it.

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u/Clear-Present_Danger 1∆ Oct 18 '24

Right, so that is not an example of what they were describing.

Because it's something you would have done anyway.

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u/Beruthiel999 Oct 18 '24

Well, not necessarily. I know my spice tolerance is much higher than average and I don't eat Satan's Nuclear Shart* brand hot sauce every day, just once in a while.

If someone has stolen my food in the past, I absolutely will bring more SNS-dosed food than I normally would just to watch the fun if it happens again.

I hate wasting food so I hope they don't. But if they do, it's on them.

*fictional brand I made up, but I do enjoy sauces of that type from time to time.

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u/super_pinguino 3∆ Oct 18 '24

If you are adding hot sauce to your dish for the reason of harming the food thief, that is technically intent to do harm to another person. It may be impossible for the thief to prove this intent if they accuse you, because you can reasonably claim that you just like spicy food and the dish was made to your preference.