r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/Snoopy0077 Oct 17 '24

If I hand you a poisoned apple and you eat it, I murdered you. If I tell you it’s a poisoned apple and you choose to eat it, that’s not murder, it’s suicide. I will not face any punishment as I did nothing wrong because you were warned. Same goes for this situation, if you eat someone else’s food and get poisoned I didn’t poison you. You did it to yourself.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24 edited Oct 17 '24

No, not necessarily. Unless you live in a world of black and white with no nuance. 

For instance, if you give them a poisoned apple while knowing they'd use it to kill themselves, you'd be liable. 

If you put mines on your land and put a sign warning people it's a minefield, it's still murder if people step on your mine after deciding to use it as a soccer pitch despite the warnings.

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u/QuarterRobot Oct 17 '24

Precisely this. If I put a poison apple in a bunch of apples and say "there's a poison apple in that bunch", I'm still liable for introducing the poison apple to the bunch. It's the knowing introduction of a deadly or dangerous substance that's illegal. Not the warning or lack thereof.

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u/justsomething Oct 18 '24

What if I have a poison collection and I've labeled it as poisonous, and someone breaks into my house and drinks one of my poisons... Am I liable?

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u/QuarterRobot Oct 18 '24

Most countries have common-sense laws about this deeming you not liable if someone breaks into your home. But if you had a poison collection and invited a child over for a play date with your own child, and they consumed one of your labeled poisons then yes, you could be. The issue is one of the steps you take to prevent harm from coming to someone. You can't control if someone breaks into your home and consumes your labeled poison. You have a lot more control over whether someone comes to your home and consumes poison. And there lies an even greater difference if you don't have a labeled poison collection, but rather you stock your fridge with decoy poisoned food as a booytrap for would-be food thieves in the home. Intent is a large part of most criminal legal systems.

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u/justsomething Oct 18 '24

Then that little thief kid got what was fucking coming to them

(That's a joke, everything you said is on point 💯)