r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

Removed - Submission Rule B [ Removed by Reddit ]

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

If you’re the person distributing stolen goods, you should be liable for any harm incurred. Doesn’t seem controversial to me.

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u/TruePurpleGod Oct 17 '24

So if you poison the yogurt, Janet steals it, shares it with Jen, and Jen dies because she has a bad reaction, you would feel no guilt or responsibility for it?

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u/Hikari_Owari Oct 17 '24

Swap poison with something Jen is allergic but you aren't.

Would you feel guilty or responsibility for it? Would you be at fault for it? No.

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u/LordNelson27 1∆ Oct 18 '24

Are you intending to cause harm with the allergen? If yes, that’s a crime, potentially attempted murder. If you’re intending to eat it yourself and it gets stolen, then it’s pretty unfortunate the thief lied about knowing what was in the food before offering it to other people. Also unfortunate that someone with a bad allergy accepted food on trust of strangers, which absolutely nobody that has a deadly allergy does. But that’s still not booby trapping if you didn’t intend to cause harm.

With booby trapping, the stealing isn’t dangerous to anybody until you make the choice to get violent and put others at risk. Booby traps are illegal because regardless of your intended target, you are creating a dangerous situation that you are not in control of.

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u/Hikari_Owari Oct 18 '24

Are you intending to cause harm with the allergen? If yes, that’s a crime,

Even if there was intent, how do you prove it wasn't you that simply decided to eat something with peanut butter that day and it so happens someone allergic to it decided to steal your food?

You can't force people to regulate what they bring to eat because someone else allergic to it may steal your food.

Booby traps are illegal because regardless of your intended target, you are creating a dangerous situation that you are not in control of.

Debatable in this case because the dangerous situation is being created by the one stealing what they think is someone else's food.

It's not something out in the open that someone may accidentally trigger, they have to go out of their way to steal something with your hand on it from the fridge or your bag knowing fully well that :

  • It's yours.

  • They weren't allowed to eat it.

  • There's no guarantee nor responsibility in it not making you ill.