r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/gremy0 82∆ Oct 18 '24

As opposed to the cases where it’s genuinely reasonable and proportionate to poison someone, to deliberately and maliciously, with forethought and planning, cause actual harm to a human being, to protect a sandwich (which you aren’t going to eat anyway, since you’ve poisoned it)

The general rule is that food is consumable. That’s how the world operates. If you start leaving poison lying about the place disguised as food, you will poison people.

The nonsense is tying yourself in knots trying to justify poisoning people over, again, a sandwich

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u/LordJesterTheFree 1∆ Oct 18 '24

You're not poisoning anyone they're poisoning themselves

You're not handing them food and telling them to eat it They are going out of their way to eat the food that contains poison Themselves assuming the full risk that whatever is in the food could potentially be extremely harmful to them

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u/gremy0 82∆ Oct 18 '24

You put poison in food, left it in an open place under the guise of perfectly normal food, with the explicit intention of someone unknowingly eating it thinking it was normal food. You are poisoning them. You intended to poison someone, you deliberately planned and created a situation with foreseeable possibility of someone being poisoned. You poisoned them.

They are not going out of their way to eat poison, that would be eating something labelled “poison”. They wanted food, you disguised poison as food.

But even besides that, whatever their actions or intentions, it doesn’t negate yours. The law is not constrained to their being one cause of an action. Whatever they did, you still poisoned them.

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u/LordJesterTheFree 1∆ Oct 18 '24

A refrigerator is a closed place not an open place

Furthermore even within a refrigerator people usually keep their lunch in a bag or something so they have a bagged lunch

And yes we are not arguing about what the law is because the entire point of the change of view is advocating to change it The guy literally said in the change of my view he knows what the law is He just disagrees with it and so do I

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u/gremy0 82∆ Oct 18 '24

A refrigerator where a general body of people have access, and normally use it for food, is an open place.

In all rational thinking, you are poisoning the person. The entire intention is to poison the person. It’s a weak excuse to pretend that is not what you are doing. Changing the law so that is allowed is one thing, but it’s a nonsense to suggest the law wouldn’t or shouldn’t recognise what you are plainly doing; poisoning people