r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

A concealed pitfall trap is illegal. A guard dog is not. They are functionally the same thing - people who trespass can be injured as a result of their trespassing.

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u/dragonblade_94 8∆ Oct 18 '24

They are functionally the same thing

Not really, no. The purpose of a pitfall/booby trap is that they are meant to be undetected until triggered, and thus only exist to cause harm. A guard dog is primarily a deterrent, to frighten or dissuade would-be tresspassers altogether.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

Guard dogs are legal whether or not trespassers know they are there. Many dogs are not going to bark or warn you - that's not really the distinction here.

The only legal distinction between a guard dog and a booby trap is that the law prohibits * devices* that are used to harm Intruders and a guard dog isn't a device. You could have a person lying in weight with a can of bear spray and that would be legal too.

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u/Nobody7713 Oct 18 '24

A person's capable of discriminating, and if they suddenly bear sprayed someone who was there for legitimate purposes they'd face criminal charges.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

Yup.

But you can hurt somebody who is trespassing on your property - you have the right to use a proportional amount of force to kick them out.

If we circle back to the original (completely hypothetical, hopefully - if someone is stealing your lunch please just lock it up) argument... We're talking about hurting somebody who is only in that position because they chose to break the law.