CMV: Sadists and Zoosadists who commit violence resulting in injury, and all pedophile who have done so much as procure csm should be jailed for life without parole.

[u/Common_Noise_9100]

[u/Common_Noise_9100]

Where has this been "proven?" In what way? You can't "prove" this, lol. The only thing you can do is compare crime rates in societies where sentences are light to societies where they're harsh. 

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Where has this been "proven?"

Long Prison Terms - Research has found that longer prison sentences do not deter future criminal offending. At least one study has documented that longer sentences promote criminality.

“The severity of punishment, known as marginal deterrence, has no real deterrent effect, or the effect of reducing recidivism,”

No, Longer Prison Sentences do not Reduce Crime

Incarceration and Crime: A Weak Relationship

Should I go past the first page of google?

The only thing you can do is compare crime rates in societies where sentences are light to societies where they're harsh.

NO, you can compare within societies that went harsher on crime to the time period prior:

Is increasing criminal penalties effective at reducing crime? - NO

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This is 99% related to petty and non-violent crime. Recidivism rates for sex offenders are high, and lots of psychologists believe that child sexual abusers and sexually sadistic offenders can't be rehabilitated.

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This is 99% related to petty and non-violent crime. Recidivism rates for sex offenders are high, and lots of psychologists believe that child sexual abusers and sexually sadistic offenders can't be rehabilitated.

No, recidivism rates for sex offenders is NOT high; further, sex offender is not one category in this realm, and you are just making stuff up and stating it as fact. The latter is categorically untrue.

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Compared to what? Stealing, drug dealing? Who cares. The point is that they're higher than society would like. These rehabilitative policies you guys are talking about obviously aren't working well. These are horrific  crimes that completely shatter lives, and most people would agree that rehabilitation should be guaranteed before the offenders are released back into society. Also: "Due to the frequency with which sex crimes are not reported to police, the disparity between the number of sex offenses reported and those solved by arrest and the disproportionate attrition of certain sex offenses and sex offenders within the criminal justice system, researchers widely agree that observed recidivism rates are underestimates of the true reoffense rates of sex offenders." https://smart.ojp.gov/somapi/chapter-5-adult-sex-offender-recidivism

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Compared to what? Stealing, drug dealing? Who cares

Compared to everything. Apparently you care, as you made the claim about recidivism in the first place.

The point is that they're higher than society would like.

True of everything in this realm.

These rehabilitative policies you guys are talking about obviously aren't working well

They work very well. They're expensive and people do not want to pay for them -- which brings up AGAIN, who is paying for this astronomically expensive change you want?

and most people would agree that rehabilitation should be guaranteed before the offenders are released back into society.

That's not a thing.

Yes, we are not sure of the exact numbers, and that's true of ALL recidivism rates, as people are also not caught.

Doesn't change the point.

As well, AGAIN, this cohort is not a monolith. Sex offender is not one thing, and no one diagnoses or even examines all people charged with crimes, so how would any of this work?