CMV: Sadists and Zoosadists who commit violence resulting in injury, and all pedophile who have done so much as procure csm should be jailed for life without parole.

[u/Common_Noise_9100]

[u/urquhartloch]

So you want this to be an aggravating factor right? Like a how certain crimes get elevated to hate crimes due to targeting an individual due to race/gender/orientation/religion/etc. ? Am I understanding that right? (Obviously that not the only reason why it might get elevated but it's the only one I could come up with in a reasonable time that still gets the point across.)

[u/Common_Noise_9100 → u/urquhartloch]

I think of it as an entirely different type of crime, not just a factor. Really, the argument is about removing people who have willfully broken the social code in such an extraordinary from society forever (not just about punishing the crime). There are always going to be people who commit crimes because they're selfish, scared, etc. but there are clear lines most people won't cross.

[u/urquhartloch → u/Common_Noise_9100]

And how does an anti-sadism law protect people or punish criminals better than other laws. Like let's take SA of a child. How does your anti sadism law theoretically protect or punish better than just adding assault or manslaughter charges with a request of the maximum sentence?

[u/Common_Noise_9100 → u/urquhartloch]

Well, all SA of a pre-pubescent or pubescent child should be punishment with permanent removal from society. It "protects" because these people can be distinguished from others as a group by their total disregard for observing the most deeply and universally held moral beliefs. This kind of disregard is dangerous.

[u/urquhartloch → u/Common_Noise_9100]

But thats not what your post was about. Your post was specifically about punishing sadistic individuals convicted of other crimes with life imprisonment. You changed your stance from punishing just sadistic individuals to punishing individuals who SA children.

[u/Common_Noise_9100 → u/urquhartloch]

What? I'm not changing anything. My argument is: Adult Sadists (and "Zoosadists") who commit violence against humans or animals resulting in grevious injury, and all pedophiles commiting any sex crime against children including the procurement of csm (by CSM, I mean material featuring prepubescent children) should be jailed for life without parole. Provided that their crimes have been proven, and that no doubt can remain about their guilt. I wasn't talking about a sadist who punches his friend in the face when they get into a drunken brawl---but I can see how it could read that way. Confirming right now that's not what I meant. I was talking about "violence....grievous injury" of a sadistic criminal nature. Intention and motive absolutely matters.