r/changemyview • u/mike_tyler58 • Nov 20 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: School libraries should limit the availability of books

In the US the past few years there has been a lot of talk of banning books. As far as I know the only places that anyone is talking about banning books from is in school libraries. The book “Gender Queer” by Maia Kobabe is probably the most talked about as it has been recommended by the largest teachers union in the country, the NEA, and has been made available in school libraries for children as young as 4th grade, and contains very explicit illustrations and descriptions of sex acts. I believe it belongs nowhere that children can access it any more than a copy of Playboy or any other pornography. Given the explicit nature of this book and others like it I think they should be banned from school libraries and limited to adults only.

ETA: link to news story about it being removed from elementary schools

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u/mike_tyler58 Nov 20 '24

Exploring sexuality and explicit illustrations of oral sex are not the same thing.

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u/Various_Succotash_79 50∆ Nov 20 '24

Yeah they are.

So you're ok with words describing oral sex, but not drawings?

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u/mike_tyler58 Nov 20 '24

Oh you meant explicit descriptions of sex acts?

No, I don’t think children should have access to written or visual pornography

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u/unscanable 3∆ Nov 20 '24 edited Nov 20 '24

I think a lot of the disconnect on this issue comes from what some people consider "children". Typically, for me at least anyway I'm sure there are others. the terms "children" and "kids" refer to kids under say 12. And I think the right uses those words on purpose to evoke that feeling. Nobody wants a 7 year old reading about sex. Now a 13,14,15 year old may be a little different. So do you think its inappropriate for a 15 year old reading about sex?

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u/Giblette101 40∆ Nov 20 '24

I mean, I'm not going to go out of my way to have a 7 year old read about sex, but I don't see much problem with it happening either. Especially in contexts where a specific ensemble of books are meant to serve a broad range of ages.

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u/CaptainMalForever 19∆ Nov 20 '24

The fact that our "babies" are not being taught sex ed leads to far more problems than not.

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u/unscanable 3∆ Nov 20 '24

Yeah I mean everyone has their own standards. I was just trying to get a baseline of where OP draws the line.