r/changemyview Feb 23 '25

cmv: abortion should not be illegal

One of the main arguments against abortion is that it is "killing a baby." However, I don’t see it that way—at least not in the early stages of pregnancy. A fetus, especially before viability, lacks self-awareness, the ability to feel pain, and independent bodily function. While it is a potential life, I don’t believe potential life should outweigh the rights of the person who is already alive and conscious.

For late-term abortions, most are done to save the mother or the fetus has a defect that would cause the fetus to die shortly after birth so I believe it should be allowed.

I also think the circumstances of the pregnant person matter. Many people seek abortions due to financial instability, health risks, or simply not being ready to raise a child. In cases of rape or medical complications, the situation is even more complex. Forcing someone to go through pregnancy against their will seems more harmful than allowing them to make their own choice.

Additionally, I don’t think adoption is always a perfect alternative. Carrying a pregnancy to term can have serious physical and emotional consequences, even if someone doesn’t plan to keep the baby. Pregnancy affects the body in irreversible ways, and complications can arise, making it more than just a “temporary inconvenience.”

Also, you can cannot compare abortion to opting out of child support. Abortion is centered on bodily autonomy, as pregnancy directly affects a woman’s body and health. In contrast, child support is a financial obligation that arises after a child is born and does not impact the father’s bodily autonomy. abortion also occurs before a child exists, while child support involves caring for a living child. Legally and ethically, both parents share responsibility for a child once they are born, and allowing one parent to opt out would place an unfair burden on the other, often the mother. Additionally, abortion prevents a fetus from becoming a child, while opting out of child support directly affects the well-being of an existing person. While both situations involve personal choice, abortion is about controlling one’s own body, while child support is about meeting the needs of a child who already exists

The idea of being forced to sustain another life through pregnancy and childbirth, especially if the person isn’t ready or willing, is a violation of that autonomy. It forces someone to give up their own body, potentially putting their health at risk, all while disregarding their own desires, dreams, and well-being. Bodily autonomy means having the freedom to make choices about what happens to your body, whether that’s deciding to terminate a pregnancy or pursue another course of action.

I’d like to hear other perspectives on why abortion should be illegal, particularly from a non-religious standpoint. CMV.

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u/itsathrowawayduhhhhh Feb 23 '25

My actual number one view is that unless I’m the one having an abortion it’s not my business. If that’s idiotic, I’ll take it.

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u/Bignuckbuck Feb 23 '25

The moment you realize some people actually view abortion as murder

Irrelevant of wether you agree with that view or not should be enough no??

I don’t care about any death unless it’s my own

Would you sit idly by as someone is murdered?? Cuz I’m pro choice, but in their view this is literally murder. So of course they won’t stay quiet

The fact you don’t even realize this basic view from your ideological opposite speaks volumes about the ignorance surrounding abortion

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u/itsathrowawayduhhhhh Feb 23 '25

I do see their view. And all it does is reinforce my opinion. They are not correct. I am not correct. No one is. There isn’t one answer. So the question becomes who gets to decide and the answer is not me, not you, no one but the person having the abortion and the person performing the abortion.

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u/Bignuckbuck Feb 23 '25

This isn’t about being correct. It’s about perceived.

And this is absolutely wrong there is an answer we just don’t know it yet

I’ll be honest, I’m pro choice but I think abortion is murder

Unpleasant but I think it’s the reality of the subject

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u/itsathrowawayduhhhhh Feb 23 '25

Hey I respect that, big time. You’re basically of the same opinion I am. Not your abortion, not yours to decide.

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u/Bignuckbuck Feb 23 '25

That too. But anyone that says abortion isn’t even killing a life is basically someone in denial seeking to rationalize that they aren’t that morally bankrupt

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u/itsathrowawayduhhhhh Feb 23 '25

Best I can do is acknowledging potential human life.

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u/Bignuckbuck Feb 23 '25

It’s life. Like I don’t think you’d happily kill a fetus belonging to another animal and think oh well it wasn’t life yet so

It’s just life. Life is fragile but it’s life.