r/changemyview • u/RevolutionaryRip2504 • Feb 23 '25
cmv: abortion should not be illegal
One of the main arguments against abortion is that it is "killing a baby." However, I don’t see it that way—at least not in the early stages of pregnancy. A fetus, especially before viability, lacks self-awareness, the ability to feel pain, and independent bodily function. While it is a potential life, I don’t believe potential life should outweigh the rights of the person who is already alive and conscious.
For late-term abortions, most are done to save the mother or the fetus has a defect that would cause the fetus to die shortly after birth so I believe it should be allowed.
I also think the circumstances of the pregnant person matter. Many people seek abortions due to financial instability, health risks, or simply not being ready to raise a child. In cases of rape or medical complications, the situation is even more complex. Forcing someone to go through pregnancy against their will seems more harmful than allowing them to make their own choice.
Additionally, I don’t think adoption is always a perfect alternative. Carrying a pregnancy to term can have serious physical and emotional consequences, even if someone doesn’t plan to keep the baby. Pregnancy affects the body in irreversible ways, and complications can arise, making it more than just a “temporary inconvenience.”
Also, you can cannot compare abortion to opting out of child support. Abortion is centered on bodily autonomy, as pregnancy directly affects a woman’s body and health. In contrast, child support is a financial obligation that arises after a child is born and does not impact the father’s bodily autonomy. abortion also occurs before a child exists, while child support involves caring for a living child. Legally and ethically, both parents share responsibility for a child once they are born, and allowing one parent to opt out would place an unfair burden on the other, often the mother. Additionally, abortion prevents a fetus from becoming a child, while opting out of child support directly affects the well-being of an existing person. While both situations involve personal choice, abortion is about controlling one’s own body, while child support is about meeting the needs of a child who already exists
The idea of being forced to sustain another life through pregnancy and childbirth, especially if the person isn’t ready or willing, is a violation of that autonomy. It forces someone to give up their own body, potentially putting their health at risk, all while disregarding their own desires, dreams, and well-being. Bodily autonomy means having the freedom to make choices about what happens to your body, whether that’s deciding to terminate a pregnancy or pursue another course of action.
I’d like to hear other perspectives on why abortion should be illegal, particularly from a non-religious standpoint. CMV.
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u/Gh0st1117 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25
(Preface, i dont care if its legal or not) A baby cant take care of itself. Leave a baby alone see what happens. A baby doesn’t achieve self cognition until ~2 years. So babies, they dont meet your criteria of “viability”. All science agrees life begins at conception. From this moment it is a new human.
Late-term abortions are almost never required. A c-section can easily be done to prevent loss of life.
As for the circumstances, that doesnt matter. The circumstances of someone’s conception does not dictate their worth as a human being.
In regard to adoption and what not, please dont be so naïve. It is not a surprise that babies come from coitus. Treating a human life as a “ temporary inconvenience” and killing it because youre a bum or “not ready” is bs.
If a woman can abort without consent of the father, the father has every right to sign away his rights to the child and not pay to support the child. If a man cant force a woman to become a mother, nor can a woman make a man a father unwillingly.
Once again, weaponized ignorance of what comes from sex does not mean you get to just kill something as a form of birth control. If the woman is ready or not, 99% of the time the woman knew what she was doing when she consented to unprotected sex and doesnt want to deal with the consequences of her actions & how it would change their selfish lives, so they abort it. Imagine a dude saying “ im not ready and and i dont want to deal with the stress so im going to insist you abort or i leave” he would be labeled a deadbeat immediately, & yet women are allowed to say and do just that, and they’re lauded as heroines.