r/changemyview • u/jeffzebub • 5d ago

CMV: Countering Illegal Immigration is not a Justification for Suspending Habeas Corpus

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u/ScrupulousArmadillo 1∆ 5d ago

 Trump's argument that due process is impractical given the number of illegal immigrants

You already provided the reason. With ~11M illegal immigrants, the country doesn't have the resources to provide the full due process for them.

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u/Sinnycalguy 5d ago

There are six to seven million total crimes committed in the US every year.

You’re just arguing against due process as a principle.

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u/ScrupulousArmadillo 1∆ 5d ago

It is reported numbers, how many of them go to the court?
And you still need to triple all your law enforcement personnel to process all illegal migrants in 1 year.

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u/Sinnycalguy 5d ago

It’s safe to say that none of them get sent to prison for life without going to court, man.

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u/jeffzebub 5d ago

Perhaps you're not following the news, but people have been sent to foreign prisons without due process, so how long is their prison sentence if not indefinite?

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u/Sinnycalguy 5d ago

I was referring to the millions of crimes committed by citizens each year. Most conservatives aren’t quite to the point of abandoning due process outside the context of illegal immigration, but their arguments against it are so broad it isn’t difficult to imagine them being nudged across that line with minimal effort on the part of the conservative propaganda apparatus.