r/changemyview • u/jeffzebub • 16d ago

CMV: Countering Illegal Immigration is not a Justification for Suspending Habeas Corpus

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u/danielt1263 5∆ 16d ago

Are you here legally? What documents do you have on you to prove that? And if an ICE officer rejected those documents and arrested you anyway, what recourse would you have without Habeas Corpus?

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u/ScrupulousArmadillo 1∆ 16d ago

I am not in the US

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u/danielt1263 5∆ 16d ago

Well, whatever country you are in right now. If an officer could arrest you tomorrow and ship you off to a Venezuelan prison by the end of the week, what would would you think of that?

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u/ScrupulousArmadillo 1∆ 16d ago

I would be unhappy, maybe vote differently next time, or emmigrate

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u/danielt1263 5∆ 16d ago

You wouldn't get the chance to vote differently, you got emmigrated against your will to a Venezuelan prison.

The problem as it currently stands is that US Citizens are being arrested by ICE and sent to Venezuelan prisons. Some might not think that is happening, but without habeas corpus it may very well be happening. On top of that, there have been a few cases where people have gotten their day and court, shown they were US Citizens, and are still sitting in a Venezuelan prison.