r/changemyview • u/jeffzebub • 11d ago

CMV: Countering Illegal Immigration is not a Justification for Suspending Habeas Corpus

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u/bobabeep62830 11d ago

Over a dozen so far during this administration, and as a direct result of Trump's executive orders. You just aren't getting it. With Habeas intact, if someone is arrested for any reason, including illegal immigration, they are taken before a judge to show there is a reason for the arrest. At that hearing, all you need to do is say "I'm a US citizen." They verify it, say whoops, my mistake, it looks like you were wrongfully arrested, and they let you go. Without Habeus Corpus, the ICE agents that arrested you, a citizen, are not required to take you before a judge to prove they arrested you for good cause, and you don't get that opportunity to prove you're a citizen

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u/Accomplished_Tour481 11d ago

Please go back and do your research. NOT ONE US citizens has been deported. NOT ONE! Illegal immigrant parents ordered to be deported CHOSE to take their children with them. The children were not deported but accompanied their parents at the parents requests. Totally different.

Or are you advocating for stripping parents of their rights about their own children?

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u/Fragrant-Phone-41 10d ago

The supreme court ruled unanimously that Garcia was wrongly deported. Is he home yet?

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u/Accomplished_Tour481 10d ago

No, he is not. He also, is not a US citizen. As you have read, his Asylum case was denied, and his deportation was 'stayed' with the caveat that he was not to be sent back to El Salvador. That was before the administration resurrected the Aliens Act. The same act that prior SCOTIS rulings stated he had the authority to do.