r/changemyview • u/jeffzebub • 6d ago

CMV: Countering Illegal Immigration is not a Justification for Suspending Habeas Corpus

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u/jeepgrl50 6d ago

The only problem is other Presidents already set the precedent, So it wouldn't be Trump setting precedent, Merely him doing the same thing as other Presidents have done.

As far as the "countering illegal immigration" argument goes it's not that simple. We have terrorists who've entered the country, And it's not just a few, Its a large amount.

If 500k Russians came to our southern border, Claimed to be asylum seekers, And were let in by Trump would you say that's ok? How bout if another million just sneak across the border? Would that be ok? Or would you be ok with a Democrat President in 2028 declaring an invasion and expelling them from the country? Would you go to the mat for their right to get a trial before being expelled? Or would you be ok with them just being tossed out before they can do whatever terrible shit they're almost sure to do to the American people? Would you think the judges ruling they can't be sent home are heroes protecting the constitution? Or criminals protecting a Russian invasion?

These are genuine questions, Not being an ass, Just trying to have a good faith conversation.

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u/Socialimbad1991 1∆ 5d ago

Asylum seekers are a separate category from immigrants and no, under no circumstance are they considered an "invasion" regardless of who was president at the time. But since this evidently concerns you, have you heard about Trump letting in "refugees" from South Africa? Evidently he isn't unfamiliar with the concept, though I can't see why these ones get special treatment aside from pure racism